G188D Oil Pickup

Many Thanks, Terry

My experience is similar to jdemaris. I've got a '68 model 450 loader but I think at some time it got a 188 engine that was originally in a backhoe. The loader had a big weight/guard directly under the oil pan and I'm guessing that it originally had a pressed steel pan. The engine that its got now has a cast pan and I ran into a few problems getting it out.

I recall having to grind down a small section in the front of the pan around the oil pump area. I also had quite a bit of trouble getting the pan off because it would not clear the lower crossmember and the oil pickup. I had to loosen the engine supports and jack it up a few inches. No problems though once the pan in in place. Sorry I don't know if the pickup was from an engine with a pressed steel pan or cast pan.

John
1968 Case 450

Jay, I have a Case 580B and it needs the cast pan to pick up the rear support for the front wheels. I think they put it on the backhoes so they could work in rough ground without a rock crushing the steel pan. In any case I have swapped the pans and changed over the oil pickup tubes. The cast pan had a float type of oil pickup where the steel pan had a fixed type and would not fit in the cast pan as it stuck down too far. I did not see where I would have had to grind anything on the pump but maybe the pump on the newer engine was already to fit the cast pan. I hope I'm not missing something ther, but the cast pan seems to bolt up alright. Regards , Terry

My cast oil pan seems to bolt up alright without grinding any relief....as you had said though I did have to swap the rear-main seal retainer by the back of the crankshaft because the original steel-pan retainer did not have the threaded bolt-holes. Now I'm just waiting for gaskets and the new main seal. I can almost here it purrrr.

Thanks again, Terry