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bret4207

09-20-2006 12:41:59




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My 1010 Deere has a habit of dropping the track. I have the tension set to facotry standards and don"t want to go much tighter and damage some bearings. The pins and bushings are like new, probably replaced as the bull wheels are quite worn. The rails on the other hand are definitly worn. Is it possible to weld a new piece on the rails and will this help with the track throwing problem I seem to have? BTW- The track will drop during a turn on rock or frozen ground. Do I dare run it tighter than Ma Deere suggests or will that harm it more?

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Bret4207

09-21-2006 12:07:29




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to bret4207, 09-20-2006 12:41:59  
OK guys, I see what you"re saying. The bushings show NO wear at all. But the pins are allowing the track to twist if I follow you. Never realized that. I"ll have to try and see if thats the problem. Thanks.



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Lavoy

09-22-2006 06:29:14




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to Bret4207, 09-21-2006 12:07:29  
Run your fingers over the top side of the bushing and see if you feel any wear. If you do, then they have been turned. Turning will shorten the track back up some, but will do nothing to remove the "snake", it will be just as shot that way as before. Measure across 5 pins (4 links) and see what the measurement is. 23.25" is 100% worn.
lavoy



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george md

09-21-2006 12:39:27




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to Bret4207, 09-21-2006 12:07:29  
Bret ,

I sent you an email .

george



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OHKENTUCKY

10-30-2006 20:48:22




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to george md, 09-21-2006 12:39:27  
George, I have always liked reading your posts, please share with the rest of us.



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Don in mich.

09-20-2006 20:34:37




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to bret4207, 09-20-2006 12:41:59  
A good set of rock guards help to keep the track on.



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Lavoy

09-20-2006 16:01:59




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to bret4207, 09-20-2006 12:41:59  
Unless all the flanges are gone off of you bottom rollers, I would bet that your pins and bushings are shot. Rail height will have no effect on derailing.
Lavoy



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CH

09-20-2006 14:58:09




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to bret4207, 09-20-2006 12:41:59  
Outside wear means nothing on your pins&bushings I would measure the inside wear, if you want to see a chart you can email me as i have one on my web site. Also i would check track alignment and wear pattern on your front idler. If it has been run along time misalignmented it could be worn so as to run the track right off the idler even if the pins&bushings are tight. If everything else is worn and it is out of alignment and you are on grades going over rocks and rough ground it is not hard to run the tracks off.

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Bob/Ont

09-20-2006 14:33:37




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 Re: Welding rails in reply to bret4207, 09-20-2006 12:41:59  
The best way to build up the rails is to get a track shop to put 3 passes of weld on them with the rail welding machine. Your pins and bushings may have been turned but can't be like new or the tracks wouldn't be falling off during turns. When pins and bushings are new the track will stay straight as a board and not bow to the side when you turn going over something and the frame is half in the air. This is your problem the track bows and the rollers land off to the side of it when you turn with the frame rocking over a high spot. Too tight is not good, increases wear on everything.
Later Bob

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