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JD 450 Steering Clutch Adjustment

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Tweeter

12-30-2006 17:05:38




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Today I replaced the 1/2 in steel line from the power steering reservoir to the power steering cylinders. So, the leak I had is fixed. Then I turned the motor ON and pulled back on the levers several times. I am unsure what they are supposed to feel like when they are working properly. They seem to pull back all the way to the seat and then at that point I can feel some resistance. I can see the left steering clutch band snug up when the lever is pulled all the way back. The right im not sure about. My brake pedal is stuck down away from the stop. Where do I free it up? Is there a screw in need of an adjustment? My next step is to make the steering clutch adjustments as per the manual. I need to know what I should expect to feel in the levers when I pull them back.

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John Wood

12-31-2006 05:39:19




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 Re: JD 450 Steering Clutch Adjustment in reply to Tweeter, 12-30-2006 17:05:38  
I recently went through this on my machine.In my case I lifted off the seat and tank so that I could remover the large cover plate over the clutch compartment. I was able to free the foot brake shaft up by using a pair of vice grips and working them them back and forth. First I drilled two small holes in the bosses that hold this shaft. Squirted oil in and used compressed air to force the oil through the bearing bushes until I could see it exit around the shaft - then used the vice grips. This took a little while and now the shaft and foot brake are both free.

I also found one clutch that would stick when the lever was pulled - ie the clutch drump would not move. I could tap it out with a aluminum drift and hammer, but it only moves maybe 1/8", I guess enough to loosen the clutch plates. I also found that one pad had pulled off the brake band (they are bonded on). I re-assembled everything to try the machine and one clutch still does not work properly. I am hoping that this clutch might free up with use. I am also using the suggestion of JD, I am keeping the two levers pulled back (with a thick bungee cord) while the machine is not in use. This should relax the clutch plates and just maybe, seperate the rusting ones that I am sure I have.

Since I am only using my 450 on my property and during the winter, just clearing snow away on the gravel roads, I decided I could get by for the winter using just the one clutch. I intend to re-re the clutch once the warmer weather arrives in the spring. I only use the machine for a couple of hours at a time and the clutch is used just to turn the machine around and for corrections when under way.

I too found lots of water/moisture inside the clutch housings and removed the drain plugs. This moisture has, in my opinion, been the cause of my problems.

When the levers are pulled they start easy and then when the resistance is felt, will start to shudder. Apparently this is normal as I was concerned about this (with the engine running of course).

I am sure that JD or Roy will chime in with more advice if needed.

I will be ordering the parts to do my clutch in March and from what I can determine, it will cost around $500 - $600 a side. I will use rivetted brake pads and not rely on the bonded pads.

HTH

J.

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jdemaris

12-30-2006 19:24:43




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 Re: JD 450 Steering Clutch Adjustment in reply to Tweeter, 12-30-2006 17:05:38  
Hold down hard on the foot-brake pedal and then try to operate the steering-clutch levers. I think you're going to find them fighting each other. I mention this since you say the brake pedal is stuck. Usually it gets stuck inside the steering-clutch housing and stops working independently of the hand levers.



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Tom in Central Pa

12-30-2006 18:04:18




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 Re: JD 450 Steering Clutch Adjustment in reply to Tweeter, 12-30-2006 17:05:38  
If I remember correctly, When you begin to pull the lever, there should be very little free play. Then as you continue to pull the lever, it should get a wee bit stiff as you contact the power -assist, Then the lever goes "soft" and pulls easily as the power assist helps to pull the clutch and brake.



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