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1010 Crawler loader

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Terry Spencer

03-08-2007 09:10:43




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I have a JD 1010 crawler (115 gas engine) that is quite underpowered. Has anyone here done anything to enhance the power of this engine.
I've read that advancing the cam timing helps with low end torque. Any suggestions.




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Terry Spencer

03-08-2007 19:46:57




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 09:10:43  
Thanks for the replies.
I rebuilt the engine a couple of years ago, new sleeve deck pistons reground crank etc and I don't want to chuck all that. I was just looking for a little more torque for not much money.
It is a nice little crawler though.

Terry



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jdemaris@usadatanet

03-09-2007 08:03:35




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 19:46:57  
I'm kind of in the same situation. I rebuilt mine a few years back and it runs perfect. Any 1010 gas crawler-loader I've ever run - you cannot charge into a dirt-pile and pick-up a full bucket-load at the same time - except for the first few seconds when the momentum of the flywheel adds some torque. Also, I have to run the rear ripper with only three shanks in it - it does not have the power to pull five. When we sold the 350 crawler-loaders new - we had similar complaints - as well as the first 450s. The 350s have more power than the 1010s, but they are also heavier. The 450s later got bigger engines, and later-yet, turbos. By the time the 350s got bigger engines, they weren't offered as loaders anymore.

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jdemaris

03-08-2007 19:17:21




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 09:10:43  
The 1010 crawler-loader is a severely underpowered machine. It was like that the day it was new. No amount of changing timing is going to make a difference. When new, it would barely be able to climb a steep hill in first gear witout stalling. Still a handy machine though - I've got a 1960 (first year with gear-shift in the dash). Best fix - to get more power is stick a 2010 or 45 combine engine into it. 2010 gas engine is 144 cubic inches and 39 horsepower. It's a direct bolt-in swap. Has the same horsepower as a Deere 350 crawler - which used the same drivetrain as the 1010 - so it must be durable enough. I rebuilt the gas engine a few years ago in my 1010 - so I don't want to pull it. But, if it wears out before I do - I'm going to stick a 2010 engine into it.

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Lavoy

03-08-2007 19:15:24




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 09:10:43  
High altitude piston's are obsolete. Sleeve deck is in the $800-$1000 range depending on dealer, and pistons will run you around $200 per hole now. Gasket kit is closed to $200, so a rebuild is getting quite pricey.
Advncing the cam normally adds torque, on this small displacement engine, it may not even be noticeable.
A 1010 loader will feel like a dog even with a fresh engine, it weighs well over 10,000 lbs. not including a bucket load of material, so there is a lot of iron to move with that little 4 banger.
Lavoy

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jdemaris

03-08-2007 19:23:11




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Lavoy, 03-08-2007 19:15:24  
We did two Deere engines with high-altitude pistons - maybe 25 years ago? Both times at a customer's request. They were both the later 2020s - not 1010s. Results were awful. Just about no power increase on the dyno, and awful detonation - wound up having to use high-test gas and they both ran hot. With one - again at the customer's request - we tore it back down and put stock compression pistons back in. The high-compression might work well in a Chevy muscle car - but it did not in those Deeres at our 1000' elevation.

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RAB

03-08-2007 13:35:31




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 09:10:43  
My comment would be - is your engine underpowered due to wear or are you looking to increase the power of the unit way beyond original?
If it is the latter, you may need to take into account the rest of the drive chain. No point in over-torqueing the clutch(es) all the while or overstressing the gearbox and final drive components way beyond their design limits. Might be better to buy a bigger machine.
Regards, RAB

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Warren Parkhurst

03-08-2007 10:03:13




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 Re: 1010 Crawler loader in reply to Terry Spencer, 03-08-2007 09:10:43  
I had a 1965 JD 1010 crawler loader for 13 yrs. The whole unit needed work and tlc. The stock 115 engine has a compression ratio of 7.9 to 1, if you want to increase the power you need to visit your local JD dealer. What you want to buy are the "high altitude" pistons which are 9.0 to 1 compression ratio. If your cylinders are worn, buy the "sleeve and deck" cylinder liner assembly, it is not expensive and easy to install. Just remove the head and oil pan, disconnect the connecting rods from the crank, put a thin pry bar(or two) under the half inch thick plate on top of the block and pry out the cylinder assembly. Lubricate the "o" rings on the new cylinder assembly and put a new gasket on the block and drop in the new cylinders. Your JD dealer has all the original operator, parts and service manuals for your crawler. The service manual is part number "SM-2034, 1000 series Crawler Tractors". Good luck and fun with it.

Warren

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