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D8K vs. D8H.... whats better?

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D8kVSD8h

04-04-2007 17:32:39




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I have had this arguement with many old operators within the company i work for. They all tell me they would much rather run the H's compared to the K's. I can't see why, The K's have 300 ponies and progressive steering whereas the H's are 270 and you gotta bust your knees all day to run them. I am interested in buying an older 8 in the near future from the company I work for because they are selling out after this summer. What are your fella's thoughts on the K vs. H from an owners point of view?

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James22

04-04-2007 20:18:14




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to D8kVSD8h, 04-04-2007 17:32:39  
I've ran both and prefer the H. The engine in the H will last almost forever if maintained. They speeded up/stretched the engine to get the increased K power and compromised life/durability. Wouldn't have been done except to make the spec sheet look more competitive.



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D8kVSD8h

04-04-2007 20:38:03




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to James22, 04-04-2007 20:18:14  
I don't mind the H's myself, I might just buy one instead of the K. But i am getting older and my knees just can't handle the H's anymore. haha



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D8kVSD8h

04-04-2007 20:35:47




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to James22, 04-04-2007 20:18:14  
I wonder if you can put the fuel pump off a H onto a K? I noticed that the H's seemed quite a bit easier on the fuel tank as well. I don't need all the Horsepower in the world, I plan on just using it on the farm and working by the hour for nieghbors.



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James22

04-05-2007 11:29:35




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to D8kVSD8h, 04-04-2007 20:35:47  
Yes the fuel system should work. But just turn the high idle down on the K, and unless you do a lot of lugging it will accomplish "fix" the problem. I was a lot younger when operating them so really didn't suffer the leg/knee problem. Probably would be in the same boat today. I was too young/late to be involved in their development, but spent a lot of time with the engineers whom did.



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Bob/Ont

04-05-2007 04:11:58




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to D8kVSD8h, 04-04-2007 20:35:47  
The are both good tractors as far as I am concerned. I wouldn't bother changing the fuel system. It will only open right up if you are pushing real hard anyway. If you are around these tractors you are buying that is a big advantage. Make sure you get one that isn't pressurizing the rad. Check the magnetic screen in the trans for metal, make sure it steers good at low idle and the final drives are not leaking or full of broken gear teeth.
Later Bob

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D8kVSD8h

04-05-2007 07:52:01




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to Bob/Ont, 04-05-2007 04:11:58  
Ya i operate these tractors on a daily basis, I think I have it narrowed down to either a D8H 46A with a ripper or a D8K 77V with 28 inch pads.



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Billy NY

04-04-2007 19:21:07




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to D8kVSD8h, 04-04-2007 17:32:39  
I love that question, I've heard that debate many times, although I've ran many of that era Cat's never ran an D8H, but did spend a lot of time on 8K's. On the bustin your knees were they pedal steer like a 977L or did you have to use both pedals and the levers to steer on those H's like the old ones ? Thought they were the same as K's with the pull levers out of the dash. I've seen on em on jobs and in a few quarries but never got to run an H.

Every operator has a preference based on performance and operator comforts but I think the guys that would have the most valuable input are the mechanics that know them both internally, especially these 2 series. That and contractors who have run both, comparing reliability, that is an age old debate.

It always goes back to the motor in these, apparently, and I've never experienced it, there were some problems that were inherent to the 8K, there was a remedy, the spacer plate motors, I'll stop there, or make a fool of myself, don't really know what the problem was there. A lot of contractors had them rebuilt through the certified rebuild program, still cost effective to run, those guys in the UK sure believe so. I had not experienced the problems people have mentioned with these, they seemed very reliable for the most part. I pulled on off a job site once that they ran the undercarriage to destruction, and I mean distruction, lucky I did not lose a track getting on or off the trailer, it left a trail of roller parts at Foley's yard in NJ when I unloaded it, $30,000 worth of U/C work when I picked it up, we had 3 8Ns and 2K's out that summer, and a bunch of 627s out on site.

Ask that on the ACMOC and ACME discussion forums, there are some large contractors still running those in the UK, and they keep rebuilding them that frequent them, ask for Tony Coates (tctractors) from the UK on the ACMOC board, don't worry they'll chime in on that question, and I wonder what Bob from Ont has to offer on this one too.

I liked the 8K with the 4bbl single shank ripper, have push loaded 627 scrapers, TS 14 scrapers, stockpiled, ripped rock and frost, sunk one in an open field once, hauled them on the lowboy etc. Ran 8N's too but that is another argument LOL !

Some of those government surplus 8K's I've seen on auction sure looked nice with hardly worn or new undercarriages, although they can be missing things, have to look em over, I'd look at those, so many of these bigger ones are hammered by contractors,nice to find a clean one on auction. Dealers grab em, the local one here was doing that with D7G's, that were olive drab green surplus ones.

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04-04-2007 18:34:53




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 Re: D8K vs. D8H.... whats better? in reply to D8kVSD8h, 04-04-2007 17:32:39  
Don't own neither one But!
Where i work we had a 1975 8h running through 1984
with a 1981 8k working with it.Running a 10n & 8L &8t now.
I personally can't tell you one pound of difference in the work between the two 8h OR 8K tractors with the same equipment.
Now the BOTH 342 ENGINE.The k has lot better controls.But had engine side pandles Fine mesh screen made it run hotter in the summer.
Thinking that the weight of the two was within 2-3 thousand pound give or take. The 8h& 9h both are just a lot more work to run them.With the hand foot steer and that big long hyd wobble stick.to much arm work.
Thats just 29 years x talking maybe not enough.

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