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dzrman

05-15-2007 21:30:03




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Just thinking of driving my new case 1150 dozer home on the road. Is this going to screw up the roadway?
Its only 2 miles or so. i think it weighs like 12 tons or so. anybody know the exact wweight and hp?




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Billy NY

05-17-2007 20:52:44




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 21:30:03  
Wait until it gets real hot out, then start right down that road, don't forget to keep turning back and forth !

Well, lets say that would be a very costly mistake, and that $100, is chump change for that move.

I can't tell you how many times I've been faced with that same problem, when delivering track type tractors, excavators and other earthmoving equipment, no place to unload or park, but they sure have no problem sending you there, then they let you figure it out, tires, planks, plywood, earthen berms, what have you, just to get the machine to where it needs to be. Excavators might discolor the wearing surface a bit, no indent, probably fade out later, but you have to turn very slowly with them, even then not recommended, the track shoes are not like a dozer, however a new dozer with nice new tall grouser bar, just like everyone else said, it's going to leave a trail of marks.

I remember one small drivway job, no place to unload, had to park 1/4-1/2 mile away, and drive the dozer along the road embankment to get to the job site, no idea whose property I was on, but the road was definitely foul territory, even with a little grading tractor, it's a lot more fun when trying to get a D8 offloaded on a 2 lane road with no staging area to unload. People think running lowboy is a fun job, it can be, also fun when the boys are on your behind when you are trying to get that big piece of iron monkey off your back.

It's ok to run on the road, when say the town and or state can't bust through the snow, my father, at their request, ran our D7 for 3-4 miles to clear the state road open, in the late 60's after a blizzard, they sure were not concerned about grouser marks than, drifting snow filled a rock cut that was 30 feet high, one heck of a snowstorm.

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gots-2-go

05-16-2007 06:22:20




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 21:30:03  
IN MOST STATES, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

I had a friend that unloaded a small dozer (I think that it was a 450 JD) on the side of a state maintained alsphalt road a few years back.

He used 2 x 12 boards and tried to keep them under the tracks, one of the boards on the road side slipped out and he lightly scarred the road surface for about 10 feet on the right hand side of the road before he realized it.

A guy from the state roads dept saw the one track mark on the road and reported it.

Long story short, the state came out the next week and tore up the whole lane 12 feet wide by 30 feet long down to the dirt and repaved it. They claimed that the weight of the dozer caused damage to the full thickness of alsphalt in the whole area.

My friend was a little lucky and had his business insured, he said that his insurance guy flipped out and his insurance went up a lot due to this mistake.

He would never tell anyone what the state charged for the so called damage repairs.

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kyhayman

05-17-2007 19:48:42




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to gots-2-go, 05-16-2007 06:22:20  
Around here its $100 a running foot plus the ticket ($100 plus $137.50 court costs). Dont ask me how I know....



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TimWafer

05-16-2007 04:23:06




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 21:30:03  
DONT DO IT. I drove my D2 about 100 feet down the dirt shoulder of my road. At one point the tracks lapped up on the pavement maybe 2" at the most and made some marks. This was way to the right of their white line on the very edge of the pavement, mind you. The county had a freaking fit! I was amazed they could even see it. Wish they paid that much attention to the potholes!



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dzrman

05-16-2007 09:05:11




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to TimWafer, 05-16-2007 04:23:06  
I know, arent the roads pretty bumpy as is :) Well, sounds like its not a good idea. if a d2 can screw up the road, this one will
really do a number on it.

My other option was to go through the fields, but then I have to get permission from a bunch of people. Also, trying to get a price on hauling, so we will see. Pretty much needs a semi at that weight.



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Tigerhaze

05-16-2007 09:34:12




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-16-2007 09:05:11  
Hauling (even with current fuel prices) won't be that bad for a 2 mile haul. I had a semi drop off and pick up a CAT 939 for me last year about 50 miles one-way for a little less than $200. That sure beats a repair bill for roadway repair.

On a side note, I've always heard that used semi tires are better for crawling across pavement than plywood or 2x4s (they have more "give").



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dzrman

05-16-2007 22:16:29




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to Tigerhaze, 05-16-2007 09:34:12  
Thanks for the info, after lots of calling,
suprisingly, looks like the case dealer is the best deal in hauling this time, $100. They wanted $200
originally but I talked them down... Its
just annoying to have to pay anything since i can
almost see my house :)



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Tigerhaze

05-16-2007 09:42:04




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to Tigerhaze, 05-16-2007 09:34:12  
BTW, I don't know which 1150 you have (C, D, etc.) and whether you have the wide track or optional rear-mounted equipment like a scarifier. However the standard bare 1150D dozer has a listed operating weight of 22,608 lbs (a little over 11 tons) and a SAE net HP of 110 @ 2100 rpm.



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Greg_Ky

05-15-2007 22:46:39




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 21:30:03  
One thing is for sure the county / state road department will know exactly where to send the bill to repave the road as you will leave them a easy trail to follow.



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troy21

05-15-2007 21:46:18




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 21:30:03  
if its got metal tracks its gonna tear the road up..



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dzrman

05-15-2007 22:18:00




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to troy21, 05-15-2007 21:46:18  
its just standard metal tracks, pads are down to an inch or so in height though. so i was thinking if i screw on a bunch of 2x4 pieces, that would solve the problem. Would they stay on with just a couple screws through the holes in the track. Maybe just put them on every other pad or something.



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Ken Crisman

05-16-2007 00:10:24




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 Re: driving on road? in reply to dzrman, 05-15-2007 22:18:00  
When in Doubt don't do it . Which would be cheaper , paying to have it hauled or paying for repairing about 2 mile of roadway plus maybe a citation from the cops . Use that thing ontop of your shoulders for more than a hatrest . God bless, Ken



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