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Brush rake Depth

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JeffPack1957

06-26-2007 17:43:58




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I searched and found one post stating the brush tines should extend 12 inches below the blade.

Are folks in general agreement with that number?

I was originally going to mount mine at 6 inches.

Comments pro or con?




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Billy NY

06-26-2007 19:13:07




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to JeffPack1957, 06-26-2007 17:43:58  
I think photos of what you fabricated might help, depends on how stout your tines are, if you built one that hangs off the dozer blade from the top, just think of the forces at work, what you built and how you will use it. If it's strong enough, 12" would appear to be fine, and it should work, but also does not mean you have to use it at full depth, but at least you have 6" more than you would if you set them at 6". Soil conditions, sound similar to sites I've ran root rakes with D8K's, after they were cleared grubbed and stumps removed, we hit the area with a root rake before sending in scrapers to take the top soil off. You have to be careful not to hit big rocks and large stumps with these, we had ones similar to the photo below.

Here is a Fleco root rake, not that far from me, just too much money, would fit a 74" Gauge caterpillar tractor like a D6 9U and I thought my D7 as well, same gauge tractor. It mounts right on the C-frame, I sure wish I had one of these, nice to clean up after clearing.

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Roy Suomi

06-26-2007 19:01:33




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to JeffPack1957, 06-26-2007 17:43:58  
I've built several..Most on JD 450 dozer..Mine were 1" wide , 12" long and if memory serves , 8 or 9 tines..I used 1" because or resistance in various soils.I also added triangular gussets from the bottom crossmember of the rake to just forward of centerline of the tine..Keeps down bending of tines..Go as deep as old J.I. will push...Once it's built , you can always cut them off to length ..I hard faced the leading edges of the tines and sides to keep wearout to a minimum..

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steve n carol

06-26-2007 18:40:29




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to JeffPack1957, 06-26-2007 17:43:58  
The answer to that is like, can you grow a moustache? The answer is...'if you can, you can'.

There are variables to this. What are you pushing this rake with?

What is the soil type?

How many and how thick are the tines?

I go as deep as I can...sl



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JeffPack1957

06-26-2007 18:50:41




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to steve n carol, 06-26-2007 18:40:29  
Machine is a Case 450C.

Soil type is variable, anything from Glacial Till
to Sandy Loam.

7 tines, 2 in wide, spaced at 1 foot apart.

But the question more though is whether I need
to go 12in depth on the tines, or is 6 inches ok.



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TomA

06-30-2007 09:21:33




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to JeffPack1957, 06-26-2007 18:50:41  
I just built a brush rake. I used scarifier teeth which curve ahead with replaceable points. I wanted to be able to work ground for planting with it so I set it up so the teeth will penetrate 12" It works well for tillage this way but does not work well for brush. The D4 will not push it at full depth in our clay soil on the first pass. I must make successive passes to gain full depth. We have coyote brush here and I find that a lot of brush goes beween the teeth and under the blade at partial depth. The sucking action of the teeth makes controlling it at partial depth difficult. I am going to set it up so it is 8" higher and try it that way. The teeth will penetrate only 4" and hopefully get behind the root ball and the D4 hopefully be able to push. I may even set it up with a shoe to limit depth. Hopefully with the blade edge right on the ground, no brush will pass under. I am sure that soil type and brush type will have a lot to do with how it needs to be set up.

Tom

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JeffPack1957

06-30-2007 13:48:01




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 Re: Brush rake Depth in reply to TomA, 06-30-2007 09:21:33  
That was sort of my thoughts.

Set the tines depth so that I could rake with the blade flat to the ground,and have the tines scarify about 6 inches.

Otherwise small brush just passes underneath and I need to make another pass without the rake on the machine.

My rake also curves ahead.

Thankyou for some real world experience.



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JeffPack1957

06-26-2007 19:25:34




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 I should mention that... in reply to JeffPack1957, 06-26-2007 18:50:41  
Mine is a commercial unit I purchased from
a previous owner.



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