Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

Hard to get info.on late 60's tow behind roller

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
In BC

08-06-2007 10:30:33




Report to Moderator

I"m looking at a late 1960"s tow behind roller (a Cat) with a VF4 Wisconsin gas engine.The roller is a vibratory type with an over center clutch.When it was running and I engaged the clutch while the hitch was sitting on a block of wood,the roller started vibrating and went sideways,is this normal? Is there maybe something wrong with the drum bearings? Any info. would be greatly appreciated.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Deas Plant

08-08-2007 05:42:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hard to get info.on late 60's tow behind roller in reply to In BC, 08-06-2007 10:30:33  
Hi, In BC. This behaviour is perfectly normal. When stationary and vibrating on hard ground, they will dance all over the place. Doing the same thing on softer ground will likely result in having to pull the roller out of a substantial hole which it will dig itself into quite quickly.

That is why they had the over-centre remote clutch or remote throttle control, so that you could get moving before you turned the vibartor on or stop the vibrator before you stopped the tractor. Most of them drove the vibrator through a centrifugal clutch that engaged automatically when you revved the engine up and the remote control actually operated the throttle for this reason.

The company that I currently work for has 3 of them, used for compacting house pads. The beauty of these rollers for this sort of work, assuming that your tow tractor is big enough, is that you can hang them right over the side of a fill to compact the batters as you build up each layer. Try doing THAT with a self-propelled vibrating roller.

If you are planning on buying this roller, check the mounting rubbers that hold the roller to the frame, check the scraper bars that keep the drum clean or, if a sheepsfoot type, the bars between the rows of sheepsfeet that remove buildup of dirt from the drum.

From your post, it apparently does vibrate but check the bearings, both for normal tightness and for end float. End float may allow the drum to hit the insides of the main frame. On a sheepsfoot version, it will also allow the sheepsfeet to hit the cleaners bars too. In fact, checking the sides of the cleaner bars on a sheepsfoot roller is one way of checking for end float in the bearings.

Most of these rollers had at least two grease points on each end of the drum, one each end for the main bearings and one each end for the vibrator shaft. They should be greased at least every two hours of operation with a grease specifically designed for this purpose. The only such grease that I know of is Shell Alvania grease. Don't be sparing with it. This is largely the life of the roller.

The hitch needs to be kept in good condition on these rollers, especially if you are going to hang them over batters, because the vibrators do give them a bit of a workout, as does being towed behind a crawler tractor. It pays to throttle down before changing direction. Safety chains are a good idea too, again especially of you are hanging them over batters.

None of the ones that I have operated had any oil in the drum so there was nothing to leak out.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY

08-06-2007 18:57:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hard to get info.on late 60's tow behind roller in reply to In BC, 08-06-2007 10:30:33  
About 15 years ago, I used one of those behind a D-5, the one you describe sounds quite similar to the one we used to compact the lifts of fill for an earthen dam. I probably won't be of much help on the diagnosis, however, if you engaged the vibratory(via the clutch) while it was on hard ground and stationary, it would seem logical that it would not stay in one spot, meaning the drum is vibrating as it should, for the purpose of compacting loose fill. If you have ever turned on the vibrate function of a roller when on hard ground, or concrete, no way it's going to stand still, designed to be run on soft material.

I'm not all that familiar with this kind of bearing and or assembly, but it would not hurt to carefully inspect, look for leaks, I vaguely recall while working for the same company, one of the older Cat vibratory rollers having an issue in that area, I was running it, called the mechanic to the site, as thought I recalled that it was leaking some sort of lube, hopefully someone who knows these will comment as I'm really not all that knowledgable on the mechanics of them.

I will tell you that I thought highly of that old unit and made good use of it on that job, had never seen one before that job, worked great, dam never leaked. I was sent to one of their yards to pick it up, all our other rollers were busy, sure was the strangest thing when I first saw it, I figured it was from the 50's or something.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy