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Roosa Master fuel advance

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Rob in Yukon

09-10-2007 14:56:00




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I have replaced the injection pump on my 440B skidder and I wonder about setting the fuel advance. I had a JD 259 timing window with some spare parts etc and I can't find it for the life of me. I have talked to a JD dealer and a couple of pump shops and lots of mechanics and other equipment owners and no one seems to know where I can get one of these tools. The machine starts and seems to run well and I'd like to get it to work soon. My question is how critical is the fuel advance. I'm thinking about running it as is until I can find a timing window to finish the job.

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Rob in Yukon

09-12-2007 06:57:40




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 Re: Roosa Master fuel advance in reply to Rob in Yukon, 09-10-2007 14:56:00  
Thanks to J. Demaris and Bob. I found Thompson Diesel. I did have the Roosa Master #. Other than a few mechanics at pump shops no one had one and as I live in a remote area I couldn't get the machine to a shop or vice-versa. I often have to be a bush mechanic as a matter of course and the advice and information I get from this site is a great help. Thanks again.



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jdemaris

09-11-2007 07:18:15




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 Re: One more comment in reply to Rob in Yukon, 09-10-2007 14:56:00  
About the fuel advance settings. If it is not advancing far and soon enough, the engine will skip and smoke a bit and be a little low on power - especially when you rev it up under no-load. But, otherwise - it's not going to hurt anything.



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jdemaris

09-11-2007 07:12:43




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 $7 at Thompson Diesel JD259 is 13366 in reply to Rob in Yukon, 09-10-2007 14:56:00  
First of all , use the Roosamaster/Stanadyne number - not the John Deere part #. Timing window for a C pump - that is used on some 440B skidders - is #17180. Timing window for a DB or JDB pump on some 440B skidders is # 13366. As I recall - without looking at any of my Deere books the JD259 is the Roosamaster # 13366.

440B is supposed to have a either a CDC 431, CBC 431, CBC435, DBGFC431, JDB431, or a JDB435 style pump. The Cs are round, and the DB/JDBs are more rectangular.

Thompson Diesel has been selling off their older Roosamaster/Stanadyne new tool inventory cheap.
The timing window is listed at $13 list price - and for sale for $7.10 at the moment - part # 13366. I recently bought a pile of stuff just for spares - including timing windows for the DB/JDB pumps as well as the round C pumps. Also, lots of stuff for the newer DB2 pumps as used on GM 6.2/6.5s and Ford-IH 6.9/7.3s.

I can't post the link and price-sheet here -due to the digital police. The company is in Oklahoma - just do a websearch for Thompson Diesel (dot) you-know.

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Bob

09-10-2007 17:51:14




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 Re: Roosa Master fuel advance in reply to Rob in Yukon, 09-10-2007 14:56:00  
I don't think it should be too tough to get a timing window, for that matter I have a spare. I have to talk to a friend of mine in the IP business tomorrow on another matter, I'll check availablility and price.

Email me, if I forget to post back.

bigcoulee@hotmail.com



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