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When to turn track bushings?

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H2

11-06-2007 06:07:31




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I split my track yesterday to do some idler work and inspected the bushing at the master pin. They were about 1/2 worn on one side. The other side was unworn and the pin had no noticable wear.

When should the bushings be rotated and how is this done?




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CHinNY

11-07-2007 02:47:48




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 Re: When to turn track bushings? in reply to H2, 11-06-2007 06:07:31  
On my web site I have a chart but it sounds like you are almost to late as 1/2 worn with the eye may be 100% worn. BUT if this is a home user or limited use machine not working on steep or rocky grades now is the time. I have alittle competion in my area I get $400. plus bolt time and bolts to do a 350 size machine(thats for the pair), $500 + to do 450 size machine but don"t do to many anymore between Mennonites doing track work for nothing and I sell New 350 chains under $800. each not many turning as it does not pay if you have a worn chain. I do turn the pins&bushing in all the used chains i sell but last week I started going thu my used stuff and started cutting in three foot lenghts and already filled a dumpster,not going to save as many with new chains being so cheap.

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H2

11-07-2007 03:41:08




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 Re: When to turn track bushings? in reply to CHinNY, 11-07-2007 02:47:48  
It"s a Fiat Allis 11B machine and I don"t think you can get chain anymore for these. Do you know if you can?

What is your web site address for the chart?



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Roy Suomi

11-06-2007 20:34:03




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 Re: When to turn track bushings? in reply to H2, 11-06-2007 06:07:31  
One thing to keep in mind...Yes turning pins and bushings will restore your track pitch[length] but, will not tighten the actual joint..The tracks are more suseptable to " snakeing" which will cause the track to miss the roller flanges on uneven ground and the track will come off the idler or sprocket..I get $ 750.00 plus bolts and seals [as necessary] for 2 tracks..



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Billy NY

11-06-2007 07:20:26




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 Re: When to turn track bushings? in reply to H2, 11-06-2007 06:07:31  
It sounds like yours need to be turned now, but I'm no undercarriage expert here. As I understand it, once those pins/bushings are turned, that unworn side will place the pin/bushing back into the root of the sprocket, not the side of the tooth. If the link (rail) height is still within wear limits, and there are no other worn out components, after that pin & bushing turn, and adjusting the track tension, I would think doing this would definitely help gain quite a bit of time out of the undercarriage and prevent accelerated wear of other components.

I do remember the interval for a pin bushing change at like 1000-1200 hours on the smaller grading tractors, when I was a full time operator, although that will vary, they did it for the same reason, new wear surface, helps stop accelerated wear of other components, like the sprocket etc.

It's probably best to have a track shop with a track press and associated tooling to do this work, if you recall what you did to get the master pin out, multiply that times the number of pins on your tracks.

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