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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

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DonInKC

01-20-2008 11:43:48




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Hey all, newbie here. Stumbled across the site and thought I'd give it a whirl. I am looking for a small framed loader (20K#) to dig some split level basements. Currently considering...JD 555G; Cat 941, newer 939's and even considering a Komatsu D31-16.

I've ran loaders for years, but not had alot of experience with smaller loaders except for skid steers. I've got a 280 JD skid steer that will move a mountain and that's why I got the call for these bsmt excavations. I'm really leaning towards a 941 with a good undercarrage. Maybe a little slow, but it seems to a good, reliable package.

I've searched the JD G and have heard the horror stories about the trannies, but the G seems to have overcomed that? I am a JD fan, as my dealer offers pretty good c/s.

The Komatsu seems prolly to be a little small for the application....I would really like to hear opinions on this.

Is there a good resource for specs on loaders to compare models with? Weights? Bucket capacities? Speeds? etc. Thanks for your help!!
Don

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135 Fan

01-20-2008 23:12:40




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 Re: Looking for a loader in reply to DonInKC, 01-20-2008 11:43:48  
Most basements are now dug with an excavator. Way faster. Even a smaller size would out perform a crawler loader. The dirt could be moved easily with your skid steer. If you wanted a crawler loader, depending on your budget, a hydrostatic like the 939 or 943, 953 Cat or 655, 755 JD would be my choice. My old neighbor had his basement dug with a newer 953C and I asked the operator how much faster it was than a 955 torque convertor machine. He said at least 3 times faster and watching him work, I believed it. A Cat mechanic told me once the good thing about the hydrostats is they either work or they don't. I have a 931B but it is slow compared to my skid steer. It has a lot more pushing power and a bigger bucket but travel speed and manouvering is way slower. Dave

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DonInKC

01-21-2008 04:56:11




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 Re: Looking for a loader in reply to 135 Fan, 01-20-2008 23:12:40  
Thanks for the responses, guys! I am still leaning towards a 555G. Most all of our bsmts here in the midwest is still excavated with track loaders. the machine of choice is the 953. Its simply too heavy for my market. I'm not wanting to get into bsmt excavations fully. My market is smaller pads, room additions, finish grading, and res utilities. Basically, I am the "go-to guy" to do the stuff nobody else wants to.....

I am keeping my skid-steers...and your right, that 280 will definately do the job, its fast, and powerful...up until I get into frost, god forbid..rock, and its not too good at clearing lots. I need to stay in the 20K# range and a 939 or 555g would fit the bill nicely. I mentioned the 941 because they can be had in this area for cheap. Even counting putting into some $$ for wear items.

Thanks again...

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135 Fan

01-21-2008 12:27:09




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 Re: Looking for a loader in reply to DonInKC, 01-21-2008 04:56:11  
You need a big machine to deal with frost. My 931B has a quick attach hoe on the back and weighs over 22,000 lbs. The hoe can dig about 8 inch frost but the front bucket wont touch it unless it gets under it after the hoe has dug some out. Dave



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Jonathan in MA

01-20-2008 14:55:01




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 Re: Looking for a loader in reply to DonInKC, 01-20-2008 11:43:48  
I cant give u a recommendation, but I can comment on the Deere G crawler transmissions. They are a dramatic improvement on the earlier 555 and 555B transmoissions. A totally different design and machine. The early G's had an issue with the supply tubes that pressurize the clutch packs cracking but they were easily fixed. In fact if there happened to be an issue, the whole transmission assembly can be slid out the rear of the machine in a couple hours..max.... They are available with direct drive or the later versions were also available with a torque converter. Deere used to say there was too much power lost with a torque converter.... then everyone else started using them so they changed their tune a bit..

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