Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
yello fello

03-01-2008 16:44:05




Report to Moderator

I ACQUIRED A 219 J.D. ENGINE FOR IRRIGATION. WHAT IS THE HORSEPOWER OF IT & HOW LONG OF LIFE ENGINE ARE THE 219 ? THIS ONE HAS 9400 HRS. AND I AM GONNA REBUILD IT.
THANKS




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
yello fello

03-02-2008 13:00:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-01-2008 16:44:05  
thanks guys,
i got an extra engine for parts that is stuck also, so hopefully i will have all i need.
where is a good place to buy an engine overhaul kit from?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

03-03-2008 06:37:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-02-2008 13:00:05  
Buy the kit right from this website -their parts are fine and have good prices. Their parts catalogs are awful and have many errors - but their parts and prices are fine. Just call to verify before ordering. If you have an old block with no grooves cut into it - make sure you order the sleeves that take 3 seal rings ON the sleeve. The sleeve will have three grooves machined into it. If your block is newer and has two grooves IN the block - then you order the newer sleeeves that only have one seal ON the sleeve and take two more in the block.

The kit for early 219 engines that comes with the special three-seal sleeves I believe is this - and note it states "o-rings on liner."

Engine Major Overhaul Kit - Made by TISCO. For 2520, 440A with SN 275483> 4.219 Diesel, 300 series, O-Rings on liner, 4 cylinder, 4.02" bore, 1.185" pin. Engine Major Overhaul Kit includes: Piston Liner kit, Main Bearings set, Crank Seals, Connecting Rod BearingsBushingsBolts set, Cam Bushing, Gasket Overhaul set. When ordering, specify in comments Main Bearing Size of Standard, .010, .020 or.030, Thrust Bearing Size of Standard, .010, .020 or.030, Connecting Rod Bearing Size of Standard, .010, .020, or.030. Camshaft Bushing of out dia.020 OS or in dia.020 OS. (Part No: OK1430)

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
2x4

03-02-2008 17:11:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-02-2008 13:00:05  
as jdemaris says about sleeve rings, a new overhaul kit will come with enough sleeve rings to fit the newer version. If you have the older version with one ring sleeves, take them to a machine shop & have them cut 2 new grooves into the sleeve so you can use all the rings. I didn't & got away with it but for future peace of mind I recommend it, especially if the engine will sit unused for long periods.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

03-03-2008 06:17:39




Report to Moderator
 What !!!??? in reply to 2x4, 03-02-2008 17:11:56  
Why in heck would you do that? Taking the wrong sleeves and getting them machined makes zero sense. The original single-ring sleeves haven't even been made in over 30 years. Just buy the correct sleeves - no machine shop needed.

I think you've got your parts mixed up.

The early engines came with single-ring sleeves and the sleeves had squared-off bottoms -not tapered. One black seal on the sleeve, none in the block.

The next block series got a single-seal sleeve with a bullet-nose, tapered bottom - and also two grooves cut into the block that hold two more seals. One black, and one red - and the red one is designed to expand as soon as coolant contacts it to fill up voids.

For the older blocks, you cannot buy the original sleeves anymore. The upgraded sleeves for the old engines come with three grooves ON the sleeve and they take three seal rings. They have been the only sleeve available for the old engines for over 30 years.

If sounds like you bought the wrong sleeves with the bullet-shaped bottoms - which are only meant to be used in later blocks that have the two grooves already in the block.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
2x4

03-04-2008 21:04:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: What !!!??? in reply to jdemaris, 03-03-2008 06:17:39  
what I was talking about is only the early series - 1969- era blocks. Cut the grooves in the original sleeves. That would make 3 grooves on the sleeve. looks like it would be cheaper than buying all new sleeves, if the old ones were good. I didnt need any sleeves so never bought any.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
LarrySTN

03-02-2008 07:48:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-01-2008 16:44:05  
The 219 was the same engine used in the JD 2520. In the tractor it was rated at 56 PTO HP and flywheel HP was 65. If rebuilding, not only check balancer bearings but inspect the lower deck for signs of erosion. The 202 and 219 were infamous for block erosion/cavitation problems.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

03-02-2008 09:40:58




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to LarrySTN, 03-02-2008 07:48:32  
The errosion became more-or-less a non-issue after Deere came out with the three-sealing-ring sleeve upgrade kits in the mid-1970s. Big problem was the first, single-seal sleeves. All that engine series including the first 202s and 152s get three-seal sleeves now.

1010 and 2020s are a different story - no upgrades.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

03-02-2008 06:27:55




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-01-2008 16:44:05  
10,000 hours is the normal life in a farm-tractor - but much shorter in a crawler.

If doing an "inframe" - watch out for worn balancer shafts.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Lisbon

03-02-2008 05:39:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-01-2008 16:44:05  
I think 219 are around 50 h.p. I never saw one with that many hours on.but as long as you can get the parts to rebuild it it should be OK.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Lisbon

03-02-2008 05:38:53




Report to Moderator
 Re: 219 DIESEL DEERE ENGINE in reply to yello fello, 03-01-2008 16:44:05  
I think 219 are around 50 h.p. I never saw one with that many hours on.but as long as you can get the parts to rebuild it it should be OK.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy