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TD-6 Fair Price

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DaveInMI

03-26-2008 06:11:45




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I"m looking at a TD-6 that was purchased new by the seller"s father. It has the 6 cylinger engine. He says 2500 hours operation time. 4&1 Drott, street pads, long track. He wants $8500. What is a fair price with no more information than that? I find nothing wrong with it but a little oil below the engine side cover.




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dej(jed)

03-27-2008 09:41:46




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
The TD6 is a headache looking for a place to happen. $8500 is just nuts. You can get good JD & Case 450's for less than that. An AC HD 5 or 6 for $5000 would make a TD 6 look sick.



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DaveInMI

03-27-2008 08:41:58




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
Thank you for your comments. I do believe the seller believes it to be an exceelnt tractor. It is a 1963 model. I made an offer that he didn't accept. I left it that if he didn't get his price my offer was good until I could find another crawler to buy. I could live with my offer and it was higher than most suggest here. Thanks again.



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eric1

03-27-2008 07:00:21




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
$8500 is a premium price for an old TD6 like that. The only way it would really be worth that is if it was in excellent condition and truly did have only 2500 hours. Hard to believe a nearly 50 year old machine really only has that much time on it. The hour meters are notorious for breaking or being disconnected or being swapped out with another one somewhere along in the crawlers life. So take the 2500 with a grain a salt. As for the rest if the machine, the undercarriage would have to have at least 60% or more left with meaty rails, tight pins and bushings, solid idlers, good rollers with no leaks, and newish sprockets. The engine should start easily, have no blowby and run strong. The hydraulics should all work perfectly, the chrome on the cylinders should be shiny and unchipped (no rust spots) and be without leaks on their seals (a tiny bit of seepage is ok). The hoses should not be dry rotted, cracked and in need of replacement. The main drive and steering clutches should all work smoothly and fully transmit all power to the tracks as required. The transmission should be strong and shift easily, not pop out of gear, and be without excess noise/whining/grinding. Final drives should not make any funny sounds like clicking or popping and should transmit full power without incident. They should also be topped off with clean oil and no metal fragments should be floating around inside them. The loader frame pivot points should have tight pins and bushings and be properly lubed. The 4-1 bucket should be straight and "unpranged" - it should close squarely, have a good edge and all teeth (if so equipped). The loader's valve mechanism should work properly, and not have excessive wear/play or slop in it.

Anyway a really solid TD6-62 Drott loader in this perfect (or nearly perfect) condition could easily be worth $8500 to the right person. Otherwise they sell for less, a decent running machine in good condition with 4-1 probably averages around $5000 (depending on where you live). And if anyone thinks "Oh no, $8500 is way too high I've seen these things sell all day long for $2000-$3000!" All I gotta say is where do you find one in the condition described above for that price? I see people saying things like that all the time, but without saying so they're referring to typical old machines with various wear problems, leaks and in need of service of one type or another. Fixing these old machines can get expensive and run into many thousands of dollars real fast (not including your time, skinned knuckles and aggravation), so it's not unreasonable to pay more up front for a tight machine to avoid all that. Especially now in this inflationary era where EVERYTHING is more expensive and getting more expensive all the time. Used to be not long ago the scrap price for that TD6 would be a couple hundred dollars, but now with China and India buying it all up it's now worth a couple thousand dollars just for scrap price. So these older (and affordable) machines are drying up quick as they fall to the junkman's torch en masse. This will reduce the supply which will certainly drive up prices for these traditionally more affordable crawlers, leaving mostly the newer ones to fill their place. And people will want more money for the newer ones, so either way things are getting more expensive.

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jm.watkins

03-27-2008 05:24:38




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
i guess after 30 years of ih i am just to old to understand. to give 8500 for a 50 year old crawler loader seems extra high for me. we have been scraping ever one i get for the last ten years they bring more for scrap iron they do to use in this part of the country. usuall scrap for 3 grand or so.with the price of scrap now might be a little more.



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Murf

03-26-2008 21:23:47




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
TD-6 62 series, produced from 1959 to 1969, serial #'s ranged from 501 to some where past # 4424. don't have the end # for 1969.
D282 6cyl direct start diesel was fitted after serial #1403 in 1960. 55 fwhp @ 1650 rpm. Loader version wieghs aprox 14750lbs



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DWF

03-26-2008 17:25:28




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
They made TD-6's into the 60's. From 58 or 59 on they had 6 cylinder engines as did the TD-9 of that era. They were called the 62 series. The price seems kind of high, but you could buy one for $3000 and put lots more into it than the price you quoted. You are the only one who has to be happy with the price. I always say if the guy buying says he got a good deal, then he did!
DWF



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JimInOz

03-26-2008 15:10:19




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
Ask at the Redpower site.You'll get all the info you need.
The later 62 series TD6 had a 6cyl engine,as did the 92 series TD9.
If everything is very good order,it might be a good buy...although guys in the USA pay a lot less for tractors in average condition.
If you think this machine will save you lotsa $$$,it might be worthwhile.
Take a good heavy mechanic to look thru it for you.



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jdemaris

03-26-2008 10:42:09




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 Re: TD-6 Fair Price in reply to DaveInMI, 03-26-2008 06:11:45  
I never saw a TD6 with a six cylinder engine. I had a 1956 model which I think was the last year they were made - and it had a four-cylinder IH diesel.

That price seems sky-high to me. They often sell for $2000-$5000 in my area depending on condition. The Allis Chalmers are more popular for cheap crawlers since there are more parts available - new and used.

I passed up a good running TD9 dozer last month, and asking price was $1500.

Good running HD5 and HD7 crawler-loaders are still commonly found in my area of NY and it's rare for one to ever sell for more than $5000 in extra-nice condition.

Prices might vary a little by area - but not much. I looked at a TD6 in the Michigan UP a few months ago - pretty good shape and the asking price was $3000.

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