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t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track

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Madebylaura

04-26-2008 08:30:15




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I have a t340a with a drott 4/1 and scarifier on back. It has sat for at least 5 years. I spent some time getting the engine to run. With the engine running and out of gear the hydraulics worked good. Problems: The engine clutch will not release from flywheel--stuck! Is there a clutch inspection plate under the tractor whereby I can loosen the pressure plate and free the clutch? Suggestions?
I raised the crawler off the ground using the hydraulics so the tracks were not making ground contact. I started the engine in low gear, the right side track moved and responded to pulling the steering/pivot lever back. The left side track also moved however it did not respond to pulling steering/pivot lever back. Upon pulling the lever back, the engine would slow down, the track however continued to turn. Any thoughts? Regards,
Scott

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madebylaura

04-28-2008 20:26:33




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to Madebylaura, 04-26-2008 08:30:15  
Yikes! Taking that skid plate off the t340 was just awful. First of all I thought there were only 4 bolts. There were a total of 6--the two I missed were hidden by the loader frame. Then the rains started so I made a tent out of a tarp over the loader to keep me dry. I got my hydraulic car jack, put some plywood down under the belly and rolled the jack under the skid plate and jacked it up to the plate. I removed the 6 bolts and lowered the skid plate. The skid plate was just filled with debris, dirt and a mouse nest. I could have taken a core sample of the stuff. I scrapped it clean and threw the
debris in the garbage. Crawling under the belly was like going into a cave---sure hoped the crawler would not fall down.
The bottom looked like a sunken ship would be after five years. It is not good leaving all that debris on the skid plate. The clutch inspection plate was not installed properly by the last person. One bolt was holding it up and one was missing. It had fallen down enough to allow mice to crawl up into the clutch area. The whole inside of the housing was filled with mouse house building stuff. I put my respirator mask on and rubber gloves. Handful after handful- I removed 2 1/2 gallons of stuff--just awful-the stench was great. I found 2 mouse carcasses and fur everywhere. I don"t think they had a chance once I started the engine with the internals flying around at 2000 rpm. The clutch pressure plate did not look as bad I thought it would after sitting for 5 years with mice condos everywhere. I sprayed kroil sparingly on all rusted pivot points on the pressure plate and spline where the clutch disc is. I loosened all the pressure plate bolts hoping somehow I could free up the stuck clutch. Its difficult working in that area. Tomorrow I am going to try to make a prying device to get under the pressure plate. I disconnected the coil wire, pressed in the clutch, put it in 1st gear and turned the motor over hoping the tracks would not move. The tracks still move Clutch still stuck! I might spray some brake clean into the area tomorrow. I might also use my air chisel with a flat end to shake up the flywheel clutch area. I ended the day early, filthy head to toe. Today was awful but fun! Any ideas on how to unstick the engine clutch would be appreciated. Regards,
Scott

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Charlie

04-26-2008 18:16:06




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to Madebylaura, 04-26-2008 08:30:15  
There are three plates under the clutch compartment, but I don't see anything in any of the manuals about using them for adjustments. With the left steering brake, the adjustment is done near where its linkage into the rear frame by loosinging the locknut (with the lever pulled back) and then adjusting free play to about an inch and half. I just wonder whether the best thing might be to try to pop the clutches loose by applying a good load repeatedly, like pushing against an immovable object.

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madebylaura

04-26-2008 18:58:20




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to Charlie, 04-26-2008 18:16:06  
Hi Charlie,
Thank you for the response. I will try and get it to a good size tree and push against it. Do you happen to know if there is a clutch inspection plate under the t340 where by I might be able to free up the main engine clutch? Regards,
Scott



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Charlie

04-27-2008 04:15:18




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to madebylaura, 04-26-2008 18:58:20  
Well, there are those three plates on the bottom. Each has a gasket, but I assume that is to keep stuff from getting in. There is also a grease fitting that is actually in the end of a hose. This is to get grease to the release sleeve. I think I would start with the plate that that is attached to. It is held in by 2 small hex bolts. But also you should be sure that you have the right about of pedal free play; the spec is 1.25 to 1.5 inches. If too much, clutch might not be releasing; however, if anything, I suspect you might have too little.

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madebylaura

04-27-2008 04:52:43




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to Charlie, 04-27-2008 04:15:18  
Hi Charlie,
Thank you for your response. I checked the free play in the clutch and it is 1 1/2". So that seems ok. I'll use the front loader to lift the front up and put some cribbing under the tracks. That will give me some room to move. I'll use the safety plate that keeps the loader from falling down. I will crawl under the belly and remove the plate with the grease fitting first. I hope I see something which is easily repaired:). Regards,
Scott

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madebylaura

04-27-2008 11:26:44




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to madebylaura, 04-27-2008 04:52:43  
Hi Charlie,
I got the crawler up high enough using the loader to lift the front end and cribbed under the tracks. I crawled under only to find an obstacle to the inspection plates for the clutch--It is called a skid plate I believe. I lowered it back down and decided to mess with the left lever adjustments. I got the left track to respond to pulling very hard and actually got it to do a pivot turn. It takes all I have to make that happen. Any suggestions on making it alittle easier? I drove it around for about 10 minutes just to see if I could loosen things up but there was no big difference in performance. It drove very straight for quite a distance before I had to tweak a lever. I was impressed. I drove it into a tree to see if the main engine clutch would break loose. The only thing that happend was the engine stalled, made it difficult to get it out of gear and it gouged the tree. I loosened up the bolts to the skid plate and hopefully I will drop it tomorrow. The bolts were 1 1/8" head. A 1/2" breaker bar with 6 point socket, a 8'long pipe made them come loose. I ended my fun by backing the crawler onto some 4 x4s on the back and using the loader to lift the front. I put 8 x8" under the front. Hopefully my hydraulic car jack will help me get the skid plate off and out tomorrow.
Regards,
Scott

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Charlie

04-27-2008 18:20:09




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to madebylaura, 04-27-2008 11:26:44  
Brings back memories. Everything turns into a bigger job than you planned on. It sounds as though adjusting the left lever free play would work now. Pull and tie back with a bungee cord or something. Loosen lock nut, turn adjuster and then keep checking free play. With regard to the engine clutch, I assume you've been running into into an immovable object with the engine revving pretty well so it doesn't conk out (it should slip on the ground). I wonder about coasting downhill into something so the force to break the rust is acting in the reverse direction. I'll be interested to know what you see from the bottom of the clutch compartment; I've never had the pleasure of having to dig in there.

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madebylaura

04-27-2008 19:35:57




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 Re: t340a International- stuck engine clutch/ left track in reply to Charlie, 04-27-2008 18:20:09  
Hi Charlie,
I bought this t340 about 13 years ago to clear about an acre that was full of 5-7" trees. I would fell the trees about 4' off the ground. Grab the whole tree in the 4/1 and take to a cleared area for limbing and log cutting. I'd go back to the stump and drop the scrafier into the ground 4 times for the roots. I would put the bucket close to the top of the stump and push it over most of the time. I'd grab the stumps and also took them to the clearing. I let the stumps dry for months. I'd shake up the pile occasionally to get the dirt to fall off. At the end of Sept I had a stump burning party. Whhoosssh- that fire was 30'high and the coals stayed smoldering for about a week. Great fun! Everybody stayed warm that evening. I have not used it in about 5 years. I remember that # 3 cylinder would foul the plug and make the engine idle badly. I would remove the plug, clean it and put it back in. Not running it for 5 years made me have to check the basics. I was not getting any spark to the plugs so I removed the distributor cap--there are some holes in the bottom of it which let bees build a nest in it. I got spark after cleaning it out. The wires were original ones I got with the crawler and I noticed they were arcing. I replaced the wires with some others I had laying around. You know I have had no problems with # 3 cylinder since I replaced the wires and plugs--the engine runs easily now. I bet my original fouling in #3 was from insuficient ignition all along. Tomorrow I'll tweak the left lever adjusters again, drop the skid plate and check out the clutch inspection hole. What great fun :). Maybe I'll just keep the old beast rather than sell it for scrap. I'm having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have trying to get this functioning. Note to other crawler owners, the book says if you are not going to use it for a long period, depress the clutch pedal with a block of wood etc. so the clutch is released from the flywheel. Regards,
Scott

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