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IH T6 or TD6 or T340

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Keith Schuler

04-05-2000 08:06:17

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I would like to get a TD-6 someday and was wondering what kind of work can be done with one of these. Were there different series of these built and which was better or worse. How good are they for clearing trees? Are there any weeknesses to look for. I was also wondering how difficult it would be to find one near Missouri. I see alot of them advertised further up north. What would be the price range on a T or TD 6 with a front bucket or front blade? I have a few wheel tractors and have been interested in the crawlers. I would like to know what wears out on the crawlers. I was also considering a T-340 but was not sure if it would be big enough to do much. Just fishing so any information would be appreciated.

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Keith

04-05-2000 15:25:39

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Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to Keith Schuler, 04-05-2000 08:06:17

Keith,
I can't comment on a TD-6 but I can tell you about my experience clearing land with a 7 ton Case 450 bucket crawler. By pivoting the bucket while powering into the stump I can usually pop a stump up to about 12 to 15"(pine). Don't for a minute think that they just pop! A lot of grubing is required on the bigger stuff that a large excavator just brushes against to remove.
What wears out? Everything!! I have fairly new chains and rollers, but I have had to weld the idlers and the slides and replace track tensioners and one top roll. All these repairs required the tracks to be removed. Tracks are very heavy and require lots of chains and rigging...very heavy work. Overworking a small machine breaks parts requiring welding and fabrication.If you plan to do a lot of stumping hire a large excavator! What they can do in one day takes a small machine weeks! Also, If you think your application is mostly all pushing get a dozer with heavy grozers. Most bucket loaders have street tracks that don't offer the same amount of bit. If you are going to be clearing trees and brush be careful not to puncture your radiator. My guess is that after every 15 hours of hard work you have about 1 or two hours of repairs and maintanance. With all this said nothing beats being able to do your own dirt work on your own schedule.
Keith

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Mat

04-05-2000 16:44:07

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Re: Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to Keith, 04-05-2000 15:25:39

The TD6 has pleanty of power for clearing smaller trees, just used mine to burn several brush piles. I have a 62 series dozer, I know of a 61 series and there are ones with a 4cyl diesel too. Make sure you get one with a good undercarige, it is probaly the most important thing on a dozer - the pins bushings rails rollers idelers sprockets all are major factors- the hight of the grousers is about the least of your worries. Another thing to look out for on older dozers are the final drives and steering clutches most of these parts for TD6s are realy hard to get. As for Keith's commets on repairs the tracks are no fun to put on and off, but Case dozers wear out at least twice as fast as the lowest quality macines do (thats why they are so cheap, but I wouldent buy one to save my life). as for price I saw one for sale with frozen steering clutches for $3000, wouldent let mine go for $5000( its not for sale). The TD6s are excelent, powerfull littel dozers in my opinon. Hop I could help.

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Keith Schuler

04-05-2000 20:13:43

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Re: Re: Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to Mat, 04-05-2000 16:44:07

What kind of expense is it to work on and replace the steering clutches if they are frozen? What do you move your TD6 with? Can it be moved with a ! ton pick up and trailer? I saw one advertized once with a bucket for around $3000 but wasn't interested in the time. I was hoping to get one cheaper but that probably means that things will be worn out and need replacing. Thanks for the comments. I could rent a John Deere crawler but for the cost of renting, I would have to get things done in a weekend when I would like to spread it over a few months. Anyway guess that I will keep an eye out.

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Mat

04-06-2000 13:33:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to Keith Schuler, 04-05-2000 20:13:43

Last time it needed a steering clutch we just bought a parts tractor, but we also needed tracks and a couple of other small things, we did all the work ourselvs. We move it on a tag tralier behind a dump truck, but thats the smallest trailer we have. Dont know how much it weighs either.

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T. Boege

04-08-2000 17:58:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to Mat, 04-06-2000 13:33:47

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the TD-6 discussion. I've got a 54 TD-6 which I have fully replaced both clutches and brakes also fully inspected or rebuilt transmission as needed. I definantly would not grub large trees with a TD-6
sized machine with a blade, it doesent have the power to grub large stumps effectivly. Other
readers will certainly agree that these are difficult and time consuming crawlers to fix. Don't beat your girl up on trees over 6 inches.I've talked to some old cat skinners that have told me TD-6s were finish dozers then and still are today. What I have done with a lot of success is to get about 100 feet of good 3/8 cable and and extension ladder.
Go up the larger trees about 15-18 feet hook on and pull. The added leverage you get allows you to uproot the larger trees with ease and then cut and handle that stump. Be carefull use the correct length cable and watch for recoil should the cable break or come loose. One other note, An excellent and very reasonable source of TD-6 parts is Norther Tractor and Equiptment company in Osseo Minnesota. I don't have the # off hand call info.

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Chieftain

04-08-2000 19:27:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IH T6 or TD6 or T340 in reply to T. Boege , 04-08-2000 17:58:42

Dad had two differerent TD-6's and although he was careful with them, they broke all to pieces when he tried to muck around with them. he cleared roughly two acres of land in 13-odd years and he also did a little work for neighbours and roughed out woods roads on our 60 acres. In that time he did two engine jobs and three final drive jobs, and gave up on the fourth occasion of a split final drive, trading the poor machine for a wheel tractor which he sold. Now we run Cat, which are stronger more durable machines. Let me say this, if you're planning to clear a lot of land, get something bigger, no matter what brand, let it be bigger. The D-6 is a good all around size if you have acres to clear. If you don't have so much, just an acre or so, consider the D-4 or TD-9. The TD-6 and D-2 make good dirt toys for when you have a retirement schedule. Again when looking at a machine, undercarriage, undercarriage, and undercarriage, are the three most important things to look at. If an engine blows, you can replace it with a Cummins, GM, Chevy 350, or whatever you have lying around. But in the undercarriage lies the very life and breath of the machine.

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