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How about a C or Super C

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Bill C

02-21-2001 19:19:19




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I joined the International Harvester Collectors Club, and,it's Ohio Chapter #6 tonight and after talking with #6 president Jim Hill I now am really interested in a Farmall C,or Super C, and once again I have some questions. Does the regular C have hydraulics, or is it like the A or B(no hyd.)? Did the Super C's come with available fast hitch(possible 3 point conversion)? What is the availability of a wide front for a C or Super C? What were the main downfalls,or problems with the C or SC (if any)I am looking for one to use for mowing 5 acres and to do garden work(plow,disk,ect.)so what kind of price range should I expect to see for a running,decent shape,possible future resto. tractor?(in Ohio) How about any personal stories for or against the C/SC(good or bad). Thanks for any info Bill C.

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John

02-23-2001 08:53:27




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
I have a 1953 super C. I bought it last year from a guy who was selling his farm(he no longer worked it but the tractor was still there) I bought it for $600-all I had to do was put a battery in it. It came with a 2 bottom plow, 5' disk, 5' john deere bushhog, 2 row corn planter that mounts on the tracor, 2pt hitch 2 row tobacco planter, 6' blade, a buzz saw with the belt, and a 1 shank subsoiler-when it pulls this and hits a hard spot it digs in and will pull the front wheels off the ground about a foot and keep on gettin it. I had to replace the hydraulic pump and water pump in the first month-cost me about as much as the tractor did. I then sanded it and painted it. It has been a good tractor but I need to work on the generator, it's not charging too great. I know I gotta good deal on it, but if you look around, there are more of these out there than you think.

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REA

02-23-2001 12:43:39




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 Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to John, 02-23-2001 08:53:27  
John: You didn't buy that tractor you stole it! I thought that I found a good deal with mine but, I can't beat that. Have lots of fun with all that equipment. Bob



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Ken

02-22-2001 18:19:29




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Go get a H or M forget the c



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For 5 acres?

02-22-2001 19:15:12




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 Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Ken, 02-22-2001 18:19:29  
M on 5 acres? Really now.



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artie

02-23-2001 08:23:28




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 Re: Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to For 5 acres?, 02-22-2001 19:15:12  
I agree. When you have limited amount of time,
H or M it is.



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Wardner

02-23-2001 08:07:09




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 Re: Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to For 5 acres?, 02-22-2001 19:15:12  
Bill C already has an H. Let's not go there again. Glad to see he has given up on the Cub idea. I consider them to be money pits.



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Bill C

02-23-2001 19:55:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Wardner, 02-23-2001 08:07:09  
Hi Wardner,I see you remember the big Cub "hornets nest" I stirred up.After all the responses to the OTHER questions I had, I did decide that I needed something bigger than a Cub,and I think a Super C is the hot ticket for me. (I read your response to my wife,she got a kick out of it.)****TO EVERYONE**** Thank you, for your info and input,once I get a SC(real soon I hope)I'm sure I'll have some more questions.Thanks again Bill C.

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Conrad

02-22-2001 11:51:33




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
I have a 1952 Super C with wide front. It is just about the greatest tractor I can imagine. It is economical, great to handle and starts without fail. I have a new 6 foot Woods mower on it and my father-in-law used it several times last year to cut two new 50 foot X one-half mile long filter strips he planted a year ago. Every time he used it he just had to call me and tell me how great it ran!

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Bama Binder

02-22-2001 09:28:39




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Hydraulics were actually an option on the early Cs and I think they were an option on the Super Cs, but as long as the tractor you find has hydraulics, it will be the same either way. The touch control feature is nice and easy to control.

The Super Cs did have the 2 pt fast hitch as an option and is readily converted to 3 pt. The Wide front was an option but somewhat rare. I see them for sale in the $300-$600 range. The Super C was essentially the same as the later 200 and even 230s I think, so if you don't care if it is a letter series, these are options.

Going price in Alabama is around $1500-$2500 for nice ones. They should be cheaper in your area. Nice tractors and probably sized about right for your area.

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Haas

02-22-2001 06:16:53




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Both the C and the Super C have the hydraulic Touch Control. The fast hitch was an option on the Super C. All do not have it. You can buy an aftermarket 3 pt hitch for either. The Super C has a water pump (later Cs also had the water pump) and a larger engine. The C is bit underpowered I think, so if you are going to do real work, try to find a Super or at least a C that has been reworked with overbore sleeves and pistons. Some things to look for: Check the block behind the carburator. If cracked from freeze up, that is where they break out. Check the fan belt top pulley. It is made of stamped metal. You will find some worn out. That means the tractor has done a lot of work. Check for play in the steering. And check to make sure the grease fittings on the rear axle are in place and look like they have been used. The only lub the outboard rear axle bearing gets is from those grease fittings. The trans fluid does not lub that bearing. Also check that the transmission shifts good into all gears and is not making excess noise. Good Luck!!

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Dave 2N

02-22-2001 04:50:17




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Bill-
A few years ago (quite a few years ago), my tractor needs changed for a variety of reasons. I no longer needed a big tractor so I sold my JD B and bought a nice Super C with Fast Hitch and Touch Control hydraulics. I put on a Central tractor 3 pt. hitch conversion kit for my hog and other 3 pt. implements. I also use the 2 pt. plow that came with it. Of all of the tractors that I own, this one is still "my main man." Handy, maneuverable, always starts, just my favorite of the whole bunch. I've never had any problems beyond normal maintenance issues. Great tractor; it's not for sale!!

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JWS

02-22-2001 13:14:54




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 Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Dave 2N, 02-22-2001 04:50:17  
Dave 2N: You said the super C was your "main-man". Not trying to be a smarty but what makes the super C so much better than the 2N? It can do about the same as the 2N right? Myself I like the Super C much more than the N's.



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Dave 2N

02-22-2001 15:14:59




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 Re: Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to JWS, 02-22-2001 13:14:54  
JWS- I guess the answer would be "more:" more weight (heavier), more traction, more stable on the hills, more power, live hydraulics. Just enough "more" to get more things done. I like my 2N and it's definitely better for the first couple of bouts around the field near the fence line and brush when hogging but on my hills, it's really working most of the time. The Super C is just enough "more" to make things a little easier.
Hope this made some sense.

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REA

02-22-2001 04:40:50




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Bill: I own a Farmall C and a Farmall Super C, I like them both. You may have to change the hdy. pump out would be your worst senearo. Other than that they are a great tractor around the yard, or garden work. If you need tinkering on it they are easy and fun. There is always someone here that can give you good advise, if you run into any problems. They have helped me out many times. I have been restoring both and have lots of questions. They are probably thinking "Hasen he got that tractor going yet"!! But they haven't given up on me and I am near completion! Bob

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sammy the RED

02-21-2001 20:55:22




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
This guy goes into Ohio every month. He has a Super C with the wide front end and Woods belly mower for sale. Give him a call.

Ivan, 517-849-7136



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Phil Auten (TX)

02-21-2001 19:45:24




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Bill,
I had a '49 C for a while. The C does have hydraulics, after a fashion. It had the "Touch Control" system similar to what was on the Super A. The only drawback I have heard about on the C/Super C is that if the seal between the engine and hydraulics goes out, the hydraulic oil will leak into the engine crankcase. It isn't hard to fix though. I generally liked my C, it was the easiest tractor to steer I've ever driven. I traded it for a B due to space limitations.

Phil

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2 row

02-21-2001 19:39:37




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 Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Bill C, 02-21-2001 19:19:19  
Bill, The super C had a water pump. The straight C did not, and as a result a lot of them wound up with cracked blocks. If you buy a C I would check it for water in the oil! Wide front ends are a bit hard to find. It would be best if you could find one with the plow and cultivator already with it, if at all posible, as they are also getting a bit scarce! Good luck on your search.



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Keith B

02-22-2001 14:33:13




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 Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to 2 row, 02-21-2001 19:39:37  
I've seen two Super Cs and one C with wide front ends this year at auctions. I will someday own one, but right now I'm building a new house and the wife says no more toys for now! Now I know when I'm ready to buy a Super C with WFE, it will be like finding hen's teeth!



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WFE\NF

02-22-2001 19:21:10




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 Re: Re: Re: How about a C or Super C in reply to Keith B, 02-22-2001 14:33:13  
Wide front is a tad harder steering in tighter turns. Don't see WFE on those "dancing C's" from, I think, Iowa.



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