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Magnetos vs. battery ignition?

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Al

03-26-2001 17:02:15




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I have a Super A that I plan on converting back to magneto ignition as it was when new, it has the IH distributor on it now. My Dad says the reason it was changed was the mag wasn't very reliable, from time to time the tractor would absolutely refuse to start with the mag. Is this an inherant problem with magnetos, or have advances in coils, condensers, etc. made them more reliable? I want my tractor to be as near like new as possible, but I don't want to give up reliable starting!

Any/all comments appreciated.

Al

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Chris Auer

03-26-2001 19:05:51




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 Re: Magnetos vs. battery ignition? in reply to Al, 03-26-2001 17:02:15  
My '41 A came with and has an IHC H4 magneto. Its a snowplow/belly mower machine running say 50 hours a year. It seems to want new points every 24 months or so, to start reliably. Personally I'd prefer an electronic ignition, which requires a $125 upgrade from the distribtor you already have. Im considering getting a distributor so I can do that.



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Bill {Antique Acres}

03-26-2001 20:08:42




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 Re: Re: Magnetos vs. battery ignition? in reply to Chris Auer, 03-26-2001 19:05:51  
If you are only running it 50 hours or so, I would say your point problem is due to the contacts corroding. On the other hand Points, condensor, and rotor only run around $10.00 for that mag. If you only replace them every 2 years, then you could pay off the new electronic ignition in about 25 years. Plus probably another 15-20 for the distributor. Not saying the electronic ignition isn't nice, but I would only put one on a tractor that really gets regular use. Bill {Antique Acres}

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Bob M

03-26-2001 18:21:14




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 Re: Magnetos vs. battery ignition? in reply to Al, 03-26-2001 17:02:15  
Another advantage of a magneto is that it permits extended engine operation at idle/low speed without running down the battery. (A distributor draws 3 or 4 amps at all times - run a battery ignition tractor all day at low speed and you'll wind up with a dead battery...)

My experience had been if you keep a magneto clean and properly lubricated, it's as reliable as a distributor.



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lee

03-26-2001 17:36:18




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 Re: Magnetos vs. battery ignition? in reply to Al, 03-26-2001 17:02:15  
I have a B running on a re-built mag. No problem
the last 8 years. I don't run this tractor much.
Like F14 says the mag can be a little more finicky as it does have a few more mechanical pieces and parts.



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F14

03-26-2001 17:15:22




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 Re: Magnetos vs. battery ignition? in reply to Al, 03-26-2001 17:02:15  
A properly maintained magneto will start as easily as a distributor. The usual distributor maintenance items apply, such as clean and properly gapped points, good wires, etc. The main differences with a mag are the 'impulse' coupling, which 'snaps' the mag over at cranking speed to create a hotter spark, and the fact that a mag uses a rotating coil inside a magnet to generate it's own electricity. If that magnet gets weak, then starting becomes a problem. Some (if not all) magneto magnets can be remagnetized if necessary. Likewise, if the impulse coupling gets gummed up and doesn't 'snap' the mag over, it won't start.

The primary advantage of a mag is that the faster you spin it, the hotter the spark, so when you're really working the engine, the mag is doing it's best work. And, if you have electric start, you can still start it with a dead battery, providing you have a crank.

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