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Greasable Hubs?

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Brent

06-20-2001 04:12:48




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Put my new wheel bearings in the 560 last night. The seals fit tight on the spindle but the hub looks worn and I'm afraid grease will leak out, and dirt in from the perimeter area. Would I be silly to tap a grease zirk into the dust cover on the hub front and keep the hubs pumped full of grease so I can keep them full?




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Steve from MO - huh?

06-20-2001 11:00:59




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 Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 04:12:48  
Unless memory completely fails me, these seals were a press fit in the hubs. I am sure someone will tell me if I am wrong on this.

There should not be any space between the hub and seal because there isn't any movement there. Are you sure you got the correct seals?



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Brent

06-20-2001 13:34:28




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 Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Steve from MO - huh?, 06-20-2001 11:00:59  
There SHOULDN'T be any space, but it is worn and there has been space created. The seals were part of the kit from IH labelled for this specific front end. They have the metal ring in the center but are just rubber on the outer edge.



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Steve from MO - just a thought

06-20-2001 13:47:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 13:34:28  
A machine shop might be able to hook you up with a bushing-like repair device. They are usually placed around a shaft to take up extra space created by wear. With a little searching you might find one that fits the ID of your hub and take up this wear space. You will need an inside micrometer and your grease seal size to pick the right one.



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Jim

06-20-2001 08:17:02




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 Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 04:12:48  
What you need is a new wear sleeve in the hub. If you grease the front hubs threw a zerk all you do is push the metal filings back into the bearings and destroy your new bearings.



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Brent

06-20-2001 10:34:58




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 Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Jim, 06-20-2001 08:17:02  
In the kit I bought from Case/IH it had new bearings and races, a dust cap gasket, a seal, and this tinny round thing which was the first item I slid over the spindle. Is this supposed to be pressed on into the hub to hold the seal in tight or something?



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Jim

06-20-2001 21:44:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 10:34:58  
The wear sleeve is about 1/2" wide and fits tightly on the seal and drives into the hub.



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Brent

06-20-2001 10:32:44




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 Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Jim, 06-20-2001 08:17:02  
In the kit I bought from Case/IH it had new bearings and races, a dust cap gasket, a seal, and this tinny round thing which was the first item I slid over the spindle. Is this supposed to be pressed on into the hub to hold the seal in tight or something?



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Dave T

06-20-2001 07:23:03




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 Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 04:12:48  
I have pulled some old tractors apart that had the grease zerks on the cap. On most of them the rear bearings were dry, and on two the inside bearings were shot. It's great to get fresh grease on your bearings, but it may be a good idea to pull the wheels every now and then and pack the bearings properly...it takes a lot of grease to fill a spindle housing enough for the grease to hit the back bearings.

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George

06-20-2001 05:47:18




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 Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 04:12:48  
Brent,
Many IH front hubs have grease zerk's installed at the factory, both mine do. They are at an angle in the casting, not the cap,On the BIG hubs they are on the back side



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Bob M

06-20-2001 04:58:04




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 Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Brent, 06-20-2001 04:12:48  
Brent - I've done that (install zerks in the dust cover) on a couple of implements - it works fine. A couple of tips: 1 - Locate the zerk where it's somewhat protected so it won't get knocked off - i.e. thru the side of the cap. DON'T put it in the center of the cap! 2 - Be careful when adding grease. Filling it too fast or overfilling can blow out the axle seal.



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Greaseamn

06-20-2001 09:40:32




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 Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Bob M, 06-20-2001 04:58:04  
Although most of my machine are much older, I tend to pull the wheels of atleast monthly and repack the bearings,(why do they call me the greaseman??) On the Ferguson and the Allis they both have spindles that I am supposed to grease into but I still like to take them apart periodicly to clean and regrease.



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Dick

06-23-2001 06:21:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Greaseamn, 06-20-2001 09:40:32  
We use to re-pack the front bearings in the spring and never had bearing trouble for the rest of the year. Hey Greaseman ! Do you have stock in hand cleaner..My 2 cents.



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Greaseman

06-23-2001 18:33:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Dick, 06-23-2001 06:21:55  
He Dick--No I do not have stock in hand cleaners--I use "Fast Orange" which I buy from Sam's Club. I buy about #35 of grease every six months and I purchase about 3- 1.5 gallons of hand cleaner a year.



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Dick

06-24-2001 05:07:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Greasable Hubs? in reply to Greaseman, 06-23-2001 18:33:58  
I hope I didn't offend you, at least you won't be stuck some where with dry or broken bearings when you are trying to get some thing done ! Keep up the work..



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