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Loose tractor items and where to put them?

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Bill Smith

08-05-2001 11:30:23




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When Farmall tractors where issued new, they came with a few various small items such as spark plug wrench, hand crank, and owners manuels. What small items where you suppose to have for a F-20 as well as for the H, and M? I would also like to know where these items were meant to be kept on tractor? Small items could be thrown in the tool box so I am mainly referring to the removable hand crank. For the F-20 I always slide the big end of the crank down between the fuel tank caste iron support and the tool box. This will eventually wear a hole in tool box. On H's and M's I stick the handle of the crank down in the square tubing that is part of the drawbar axel clamps. I got original 6 volt system on the H and you know how that goes. Not enough juice to start alot of times and carrying the crank with is necessary. I just don't know if I am missing some additional items or if I am keeping these crank's in the intended spot. I have never seen an owners manuel for a F-20 but I am assuming there was one. Am I correct? On an H and M the only tool box I can see is the little cubby whole right under the seat. Actually just a piece of tin that was added to seat assembly. Not room for much there. I have seen a few H's and M's with a box and lid assembly bolted onto the side of frame. Was this box a factory option or simply a owner add on deal. I got a home made one on mine and it was specificly made to hold a 6 pack of beer and ice. It even has holes in the bottom of it to drain water from melted ice. I thought it was a pretty nice add on feature myself. Also was there an umbrella shade assembly option for tractors. I don't believe there was but I am cosidering putting an umbrella on. Maybe I can find an aftermarket one or something.

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The Red

08-06-2001 05:03:34




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 Re: loose tractor items and where to put them? in reply to Bill Smith, 08-05-2001 11:30:23  
I place the crank handle between the two output liftall pipes on the clutch side. The elbow of the crank lays on the rear liftall pipe.

With regards to the starter, it sounds like you have a lot of resistance. If the cables are old from the battery to the starter switch to the starter, replace them. If that doesn't help, the starter might need new brushes. If those items are in top shape, the starter should spin decently on 6 volts.

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Merlin

08-05-2001 15:46:22




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 Re: loose tractor items and where to put them? in reply to Bill Smith, 08-05-2001 11:30:23  
I used to place the crank between the engine block and the engine frame. Seemed to stay there alright. Re: 6 volts and starting, make sure the battery polarity is correct. A simple way to do this is to hold a sharpened lead pencil and let the spark pass throught the exposed graphite to the plug. In a darken condition you will see the flair out of electrons. It should flair out towards the plug. Switch the primary (6volt) wires on the coil to correct if wrong. The people in the Red River Valley of the North (MN and ND) where I grew up replace the 6 V battery with an eight volt battery which helps a lot in cold weather. A survey done in MN in the 60's found that 47% of the tractors were running on reversed polarity as mention above. This makes for difficult starting as it requires much more voltage to fire the spark plug in that condition.

Good Luck, Merlin

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Bill Smith

08-05-2001 22:02:50




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 Re: Re: loose tractor items and where to put them? in reply to Merlin, 08-05-2001 15:46:22  
I got my H set up original, only I switched to a negative ground and polarized the generater to charge the other way. My amp guage reads backward since I didn't switch the wires around on it. I am the only one that drives it so if it shows a discharge I know that it is OK. You just have to read it backwards becuase the system is now polarized backward. A guy told me to switch the wires on coil around as well. I have not done this. He said that damage would eventually be done to coil but I have run it along time without switching it and I have had no problems yet. I didn't know that it would make a difference in your spark. The tractor has always seem to run OK and it seems to start right up all the time. The old 6 volt system sometimes just don't have the juice to turn the tractor over. If that happens it will usually start right up with the crank. If there is enough juice for the battery to turn the engine over it starts right up as well. I will probably switch the coil wires around just to be safe. As for crank placement, on H's, M's, and F-20's the gap between engine and tractor frame is to great to place crank between the two. Maybe I don't understand how you wedged it in there so that it would stay during a day in the field. I have only lost one crank and that was becuase I left it on tractor after I started it and drove it. It fell off and was lost. I have never lost one when it was placed where I keep them. I just would like to know if I am placing the crank where it was intended when tractor came from factory. There must have been a designated spot since it was removable after tractor was started.

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