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AndyG

08-26-2001 19:54:50




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Im sure everyone has some opinion on this subject. I've used CT Farm & Country Enamel on sandblasted/primed parts and it seems to scratch off rather easy (I did my air cleaner) and it was just odd that the scratches were down to the primer..(seems the primer held firm)...

Anyway since I's spending forever taking everything off my m and sandblasting them.. I would like to know if their is a consensus on a "Good" epoxy primer/Paint for a farmall. Who supplies it, where I can get it...and gasp...what price I might expect to pay for a gallon.

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lee

08-27-2001 16:07:43




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 Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to AndyG, 08-26-2001 19:54:50  
The epoxy systems are very durable if applied correctly. Not only expensive, they are much more difficult to work with than say a good enamel and hardener. An acrylic enamel seems a little more touchy than straight enamel or an enamel and hardener. Epoxy a little more finicky yet. The epoxy paint, hardener, and appropriate reducers are very toxic as you will note when you read the label so you do not want to inhale this stuff or get these materials on your skin. Not that you want to inhale or have contact with the materials in any paint system those used in epoxy are some of the most toxic. Best left for use by professional painters only. You should have a good paint booth, appropriate spray equipment and all the right protective gear and training.

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Cliff Neubauer

08-27-2001 06:28:51




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 Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to AndyG, 08-26-2001 19:54:50  
Any paint with a hardner will be more scratch resistant, the hardner chemically cures the paint instead of just evaporatingt the solvents out. With that said some types of paints are also harder, urethanes are harder than synthetic or acrylic enamel and polyurethanes are harder yet but very toxic to spray without proper protection. I would use an economy line single stage urethane if I were you. Most paint companies have an economy line of paint that is good paint just not the best. PPG has Omni and I think a gallon of red Omni with reducers and hardner is around $140 and should be plenty for an M. If you want it to really shine you can add clear mixed 1:1 in the final couple of coats and it will also help to keep it from fading but with the urethanes it will be many years before it will fade.

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AndyG

08-27-2001 07:40:20




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 Re: Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 08-27-2001 06:28:51  
Cliff.. thanks for the comments. I plan on using my "M" however since I'm going to all the trouble to clean it I can't see wasting the effort on crappy paint. just one more question...I'm not familiar with PPG...is that Pittsburgh paints? Where would I get this from?

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Cliff Neubauer

08-27-2001 10:31:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to AndyG, 08-27-2001 07:40:20  
Yes it's Pitsburg Paint and Glass. Check your local autoparts stores or find their website, I think it has a dealer locator. If you don't have one close or they give you poor service there are several other automotive paint companies which all have quality products. Yes it's hard to spend that much on paint but the better paint won't scratch as easy and if you do get a scratch it will be easier to fix. When you figure in all the time you will have invested what is another $100 to make sure you won't have to do it again?

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LarryG

08-27-2001 12:52:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 08-27-2001 10:31:56  
I bought PPG Omni series from my local auto paint store. They neded a couple of hours to mix up the color. Can't tell you how it works because I haven't put it on yet, but just as a reference, I paid $84/gal for the top coat. Don't off hand remember about the hardners, reducers, etc but that will give you a point of reference.



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Cliff Neubauer

08-27-2001 10:28:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to AndyG, 08-27-2001 07:40:20  
Yes it's Pitsburg Paint and Glass. Check your local autoparts stores or find their website, I think it has a dealer locator. If you don't have one close or they give you poor service there are several other automotive paint companies which all have quality products. Yes it's hard to spend that much on paint but the better paint won't scratch as easy and if you do get a scratch it will be easier to fix. When you figure in all the time you will have invested what is another $100 to make sure you won't have to do it again?

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Chums5

08-26-2001 20:43:46




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 Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to AndyG, 08-26-2001 19:54:50  

Hey Andy...the first of my tractors i painted back in "95" i used that paint from CT....never again..tractor sets outside all summer and in shed all winter...it's fading and what's left of the red you can see the primer under it..!!!!...the last 3 tractors i've painted i used Sherman Williams..(called machinery red..matches IH red) it's an enamel and is very user friendly...even with a cheap spray gun....and you go to any of their stores and they usually have it in stock and use there primer also it's kinda heavy(covers fair sized imperfections)..... .just finished painting an "H" ....primer was $18./gal. and red was $26./gal. ..... .Hope this helps....Good Luck.....

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AndyG

08-27-2001 05:58:46




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 Re: Re: Epoxy Paint... in reply to Chums5, 08-26-2001 20:43:46  
Thanks for the tip...I did notice any fading on my air cleaner...but I was less than thrilled with how easy it scratch offed...I'll check on the sherman williams



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