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AFR

11-06-2001 08:06:41

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Hi all. I need a bit of advice/help - sorry if I ramble on a bit. I have a chance at an old international cub for free. It's a 50's era machine that comes with a front blade, rear wheel weights, a flail mower and has hydraulics in the middle of the tractor (they raise and lower the mower but I'm not clear as to whether they also work the blade). The tractor has been stored outside, where it was parked by the guy that owns it, about four years ago before the guy got sick. He drove it to this spot so I guess it ran before this. Is the tractor worth putting money into it for use around my three and a half hilly acres or would I be better off sinking money into a new yard/garden tractor? The options for new tractors seem sort of dismal though. Not built very heavy, almost disposable etc. My problem is that I don't have a lot of time to play with this thing, and I'll need it to run at least for two years before I get the chance to do any serious work to it. Is this a good gamble? Does anybody have experience in having somebody else work on the engine and mechanical stuff? Would it cost more than a new garden tractor? I'm stuck and I don't really know what to do here. I love the thought of having an actual farm tractor that's capable of doing some real work, but I don't want to end up with it just taking up space in the garage. So I guess the real question is, from a purely practical standpoint, is $2,000.00 better spent on this old tractor or on a completely new one? By the way, what sort of a load can these things pull? I hear they're only about 10hp, although that's real power at the wheels, I don't know how that would translate to dragging a fallen tree, pulling a stump, or hauling a trailer loaded with dirt rocks etc.

Thanks very much for any answers that you can provide.

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Barnaby

11-07-2001 05:09:40

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

Where are you in PA? I'm in Lancaster and if you're nearby I could give you a hand.

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AFR

11-07-2001 05:31:08

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Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to Barnaby, 11-07-2001 05:09:40

I'm in bernville. Just about 45 min north of you.

Near the Reading Airport. Thanks for the offer. I'll let you know if I run into trouble. I probably won't be able to get the thing here til spring anyway.

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Barnaby

11-07-2001 05:47:13

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Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-07-2001 05:31:08

I work in Reading so if you need a hand, just email me. (mzeiders_99@yahoo.com) I would be happy to help. I have my grandfathers Farmall H which I got running after it sat for 15-20 years. My buddy has a late 40's cub which we've been working on so I'm a little familiar with them and he's got copies of some of the manuals.

If you're not going to work on it until spring, I would at least pull the spark plugs, shoot a whole bunch of motor oil into the cylinders, and then put the plugs back in. That way, if it's stuck, it'll have all winter to soak.

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Alabama

11-06-2001 14:37:03

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

Ok, you don't want to look like a dork on a yard-dog cutting grass. The wife thinks the cub is ugly and thinks she deserves to drive a new tractor.She probably even thinks its ugly.You don't know if the tractor will start (trust me it will) so you are hesitant.My M had been sitting for years and started within two hours of changing fluids and wiring.No one will stop you on a yard-dog and say..."nice looking yard machine"!If your wife does not warm up to the cub you keep it and buy her a yard-dog.

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Alabama

11-06-2001 14:40:48

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Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to Alabama, 11-06-2001 14:37:03

If you get the cub and don't want it. I'll give you 100 times what you paid for it. Plus the cost of getting running.

If you want a real machine that will outlast you...buy a Farmall - IH, anything else is running into the wind.

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KurowNZ

11-06-2001 12:42:47

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

Never (ever) let a chance go by. grab it now especially at that price. You would be surprised at hoe simple they are and what it takes to get them back in action. You will be the envy of the neighbourhood.
Kurow
Nelson
NZ

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George Willer

11-06-2001 12:55:56

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Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to KurowNZ, 11-06-2001 12:42:47

Kurow,
Do you know our friend and fellow old iron collector who operates a landscaping business in Nelson? Dot Parsons (cyberpunk@nelson.planet.org.nz) seems to have vanished.

George Willer

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AFR

11-06-2001 14:16:19

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Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to George Willer, 11-06-2001 12:55:56

Thanks for the inspiration fellas. The real problem is getting it home and using it for a few months so that the wife can see that there's a reason to have it instead of the shiny new ones from wal mart that she could drive (and feel comfortable) If I can't bring it home and show it's usefulness quickly, I won't ever be given the time to fix it properly. Thyat's the key thing here. I don't have the luxury of time.

A few other questions now....
How do I get it started now that it's been sitting for a few years? Also, How do I turn the engine over since the battery's probably dead and this has a funky elec system I think?(please phrase your answers as if you're speaking to a teen-aged Dan Quayle.)

Thanks!

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wvhogleg

11-07-2001 06:41:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 14:16:19

the whole good of a cub comes from its usefullness. its a small tractor that can do a whole lot of work. dont worry about the wife thing too much, when i was a kid, my mom would drive the cub when we plowed the potato patch and while we pitched the hay.

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Barnaby

11-07-2001 06:15:30

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 14:16:19

If you like, send me your mailing address (mzeiders_99@yahoo.com) and I'll check and see if my buddy has copies of any manuals for his cub.

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The Red

11-06-2001 14:46:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 14:16:19

Where is this Cubbie located?

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AFR

11-07-2001 04:04:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to The Red, 11-06-2001 14:46:26

Located in PA in my grandma's back yard....

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ff316

11-06-2001 12:36:15

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

Go for the Cub! If you can get it running and tune it up, maybe change all the fluids, you could have a great little tractor for a few hundred bucks. It will do better than the biggest Wal-Mart riding tractor and will last for years with regular maintenance. In my humble opinion, you would have to spend quite a bit of cash to get a new small tractor that would hang with the Cub. Plus...the Cub would make chores a lot more enjoyable than listening to a daggone Briggs & Stratton run! If you don't take the Cub, I'm sure someone here would be interested, especially a free one. I know I would. Good luck and let us know if you get it. Fireman

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JohnB

11-06-2001 11:03:31

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

First off, you're asking the wrong bunch of guys. Answer is obvious, get the Cub, especially if it's free. It probably won't cost more than a new tractor to get it running. Get it running, see how it handles your hills, if you don't like it, you can probably sell it for more than what you paid the mechanic, even if he can't get it running. (just the wheel weights are probably worth $100).
The hydraulics will lift the plow. It doesn't have the hill climbing power or stability of a new 20 HP 4WD machine, but it will pull a heavy load up medium hills, especially in 1st gear, and has tons more strength than a $2000 Home Depot-type machine. It's quiet, reliable, and fun to drive.

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The Red

11-06-2001 08:38:58

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

Where is this Cubbie located?

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PatM - BRING IT HOME NOW!

11-06-2001 13:09:51

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Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to The Red, 11-06-2001 08:38:58

I was wonderin' that, too. Of course I probly had an ulterior motive or two!

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The Red

11-06-2001 14:44:40

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Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to PatM - BRING IT HOME NOW!, 11-06-2001 13:09:51

I was only curious..... .

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Justin

11-06-2001 08:34:18

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

For $2000 you will not get a new garden tractor that pulls stumps either. If this cub has been sitting outside for 4 years, it may or may not need some serious work. If you don't want to take a chance on this one, look in the classifieds. For $2000 you can probably get a good running machine with plow/deck. Take a look at the link below for an example.

On the other hand, a lot of us would drive 500 miles for a FREE cub, even in the condition you mentioned.

Good luck!

1947 Farmall Cub

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sammy the RED

11-06-2001 08:12:39

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Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 08:06:41

If you are planning on dragging fallen trees, pulling stumps, I would look for a bigger tractor.

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AFR

11-06-2001 10:02:00

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Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to sammy the RED, 11-06-2001 08:12:39

To Clarify, Not pull the stumps out of the ground, just drag them to the burn pile after I've dug them up. And it's not a whole tree, just that last big part of the trunk that I can't cut with my 14" chainsaw.... How strong are these things?

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Bill

11-06-2001 11:33:26

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Re: Re: Re: 50's era - International Cub in reply to AFR, 11-06-2001 10:02:00

AFR;

Get a "Farmall M" tractor, you won't be sorry.

Bill

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