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Daughter and my M

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Alabama

11-07-2001 11:52:17




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I couldn't fix my 10 year olds three wheeler so she asked if I could give her a ride on my M. I told her "No Way, too dangerous." She said,"Fine I'll drive." I said if you can push in the clutch and use the breaks I'll let you. I put her in the seat, asked her to push in the clutch and hit the breaks, she could. I stood on the draw back and she fired it up. She shifted into 1st and chugged along our large pasture planted to the seat. I was amazed and stupid. In no way should a kid be driving something that dangerous. LESSON: Be very careful with what you promise your kids. Of course it's something she and I will never forget.

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Jerry

11-11-2001 12:34:05




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
I agree with the Dukester fully!
I have had the opportunity to study father child relationships issues. Although this is about tractors, sounds to me that you have a daughter with a great dad who keeps his word, and spends time with her!
Keep it up!



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Jerry

11-11-2001 12:31:59




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
I agree with the Dukester fully!
I have had the opportunity to study father child relationships issues. Although this is about tractors, sounds to me that you have a daughter with a great dad who keeps his word, and spends time with her!
Keep it up!



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The Dukester

11-08-2001 20:07:54




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Man, you were there supervising her and that's what counts. Yeah we'd all like to be safe and cautious and that's good. Safety should always come first--BUT--being there with the young lady and doing your job as a father and showing her what she has a right to know was worth whatever risk involved I think. If we take every precaution and never risk anything we will all live to be 135 years old, or at least it'll seem like it, but will that be the best life??

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Jim (Mi)

11-08-2001 09:32:02




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Hey if she expressed an interest in it, she is thinking about driving it. Better to be there and show her how to do everything properly rather than have her learn on her own. I would think you should rest easier settling her urge to drive, knowing should she ever sneak out and drive it in the future (like kids never do that) she knows what she is doing.



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big fred

11-08-2001 07:55:11




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Years ago I promised my daughter that when she turned 18 I would take her skydiving. She's 24 now, and I still ain't done it. I suggested that if she still wanted to jump, I'd pay for it. She hasn't taken me up on that either. Guess somewhere in there we both chickened out.



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Jim (Mi)

11-08-2001 10:36:56




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 Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to big fred, 11-08-2001 07:55:11  
Big Fred, I am 24. My 27 year old sister wanted to sky dive. She talked me into it this past summer. All I can say is it will be a experience next to immortality. Go, if you are not afraid of heights, you will not regret it.



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F14

11-08-2001 04:35:26




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Age isn't the critical criteria, maturity is. My 10 year old grandson routinely drives my JD750 with little or no direct supervision while helping me with various tasks. It's a very stable tractor, and ground speed in first gear makes a snail look like Jeffy Gordon. No power equipment on the rear, tho I do let him run the backhoe (with very close supervision) and carry an occasional load in the bucket (again, very close supervision). He used the bucket to load a load of wood chips on the trailer the other day, his first time running the FEL without sittin' in Grampy's lap to do it. Just as proud as he could be.

He's a typical 10 year old, leaves stuff laying around, has an attention span measured in nano-seconds, but when he's on that tractor, he's all business, and he knows the first cut up is his last. Good way to get them started on learning a little responsibility, if you choose the task and the terrain carefully.

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Dan

11-07-2001 19:30:18




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
My stories like alot of these others. I started raking in the hay field with a Ford 3000 diesel with a select-o-speed at age 8. I was pulling two side delivery rakes with a L hitch. I have three older sisters who where running some piece of hay equipment or another at the same time.

Dan



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John A.

11-07-2001 16:41:03




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
I started driving my Daddy"s M when I got big
enough to hold on to the light bar , while sitting
on the edge of the seat,to have enough leverage
to push in the clutch!!! Only got to move her around in the implement yard,but driving I was!!!
I was 8 yrs old. For thoes few moments I was king.

By-the-way I still have this old girl. A 1950 M,
I rebuilt her my senior year @ Tarleton State
University in 1980 When she is running she's got
42 screming horses & a factory wide frount end.

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Poppin' Johnny

11-07-2001 16:24:45




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
I ain't dangerous as long as some old stories are told and common sense is used. I'm 14 and run our new John Deere 4300 TLB, and have many times myself. Heck, I ran the corn picker yesterday by myself.



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C.B.(MO)

11-07-2001 15:23:43




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
my Grandfather had me driving the D5 cat at age 11 so I guess an M aint so bad



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Haas

11-07-2001 14:08:08




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
I started on the Super A when I was around 11. My first job was driving the Hay wagon to pick up bales or with the loose hayloader behind the wagon to pick up loose hay. I also drove the Super A to pull the loose hay up into the barn. It was a year or two before I graduated to the MD.



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Bigdog

11-07-2001 13:35:40




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
At age 7 I was driving an M also a JD B. Pulling a baler, raking hay, etc. Of course that was 47 years ago. We did what we had to do to exist on a farm. A lot of us are lucky to be here today. My dad taught me to do things safely and to not take chances. If you teach them right, they will do it right. What you gained in a father - daughter bond is invaluable. Just keep teaching her the right things.

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JDM

11-07-2001 13:06:26




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Maybe 10 is a little young for a M.But I was on ours at 7,never alone though!Didnt get to solo until I was about 12.I could never do anything that would cause me to get killed if I fell off the back,plowing or bushhogging but I did get to do a little cultivating when Dad didnt have the rears on and then mostly in 2nd gear.Didint plow until I was 13 or 14,and then it was on a big Case 1020 Comfort King!(Dad felt I could fall off the back unless i jumped.He finally put me on our M one day and let me loose.Told me hold on that steering wheel so tight id bend.I didnt bend it but I never fell off!

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Steven

11-07-2001 12:35:22




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
As long as the child understands the controls and safety issues I feel it is perfectly safe to let them run the equipment in an open area until they get used to it. I was running tractors around 9 or 10 years, and by 12 I was backing them up to implements while my Dad put the pin in.

As a side note, I lost my right foot when I was 10 years old in a grain auger. Kicked the tailgate shut and my foot slipped off the back of the truck. PTO drive auger with 50 hp tractor on it. DO NOT REMOVE SAFETY GUARDS FOR ANY REASON other than repair and then replace them immediately. TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT SAFETY!

Steven

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Mark A

11-07-2001 12:19:53




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
Riding on a "M" is more dangerous than riding on "THREE WHEELER"???? What are you smoking there in Alabama?



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Woo Hoo

11-07-2001 12:23:46




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 Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Mark A, 11-07-2001 12:19:53  
Now I can tell my wife its ok to let her dive the M and I can get an 806 !!!!



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Tim Malin

11-07-2001 14:55:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Woo Hoo, 11-07-2001 12:23:46  
That would be an awesome upgrade!!! All you need to do my friend, is simply, convince the wife...



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The Red

11-07-2001 12:26:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Woo Hoo, 11-07-2001 12:23:46  
That ain't a bad idea!!



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Dave T

11-07-2001 12:12:06




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 Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 11:52:17  
In the 40's, 50, and 60's, many 10 year olds were out in the field cultivating without their Dads on the drawbars.



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Alabama

11-07-2001 12:21:23




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 Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Dave T, 11-07-2001 12:12:06  
Thanks Dave, I thought I was crazy letting her drive a 6500 lb machine. Truth be known, I liked that we had shared the love of the old M.



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Dave T

11-07-2001 12:29:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 12:21:23  
Then again, I let my 24 year old daughter drive my Super C. Within 10 minutes, she had the rear wheels buried in mud up to the axle. But to give her a little credit, it wasn't totally her fault. She did try to turn around right where we removed a big stump...and fell in.



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The Red

11-07-2001 12:25:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Alabama, 11-07-2001 12:21:23  
Grandpa had me driving the H at age 10 and the old Ford pickup at age 11 around the farm. Back then he had lots of small lots for hogs. I got a lot of practice in stopping, starting, opening and closing gates with both the tractor and the pickup.



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Ron in Tucson, AZ

11-07-2001 19:52:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to The Red, 11-07-2001 12:25:22  
I was about 6 years old or so not sure but when we were farming in Ohio and my dad would start me in a straight line on the AC "C", then he would get off while moving and go around the bailer and get up on the trailer and help my mom stack the bailes of hay. When I got near the end he would jump off and run around to the tractor and get on and turm me around the other way to do it over.If I remember correctly he showed how to turn it offif there was a problem, as I think about it now it was not to safe but the had to do what the had to do. But I know why tractors are in my blood...:)

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Chums5

11-08-2001 07:09:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Ron in Tucson, AZ, 11-07-2001 19:52:09  

I grew up in a large family and everyone had there job...dad was a carpenter but we had three farms...after my brother and I wa 8 & 9...we ran the farms...dad showed and set up the daily projects....and yes we had accidents but not serious...it's different if you grow up around the machines than if you didn't.....we even when to the mill with the pickup....& dad also had a snowplow with a V-plow and wing(plowed township roads)when me and my brother was 11 & 12 we would plow roads when dad was busy ..... I have brought up my son and daughter the same way..and if you work safety into the operation of the equipment....they are more likely to do a better job and not have accidents..... .only my two cents...Good Luck...

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Scott

11-08-2001 09:56:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Daughter and my M in reply to Chums5, 11-08-2001 07:09:51  
I couldn't agree with you more. I started off steering a Super A when I was 4, solo a few years later. I always enjoyed that time with my dad and still do. Those early driving lessons gave me a great respect for machinery and safety. Everyone who does this has to start sometime, they are a lot better off learning it the right way. All it did for me was fan the flames of tractor enthusiasm. I'm now 26 years old and own 20 tractors, some IH and some other colors. I love 'em all.

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