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AGR538

11-27-2001 15:15:32




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I am not getting fire on my '40 H. It has not been started in about 5 years. I figure my coil is bad so I am going to replace it. My questions are: 1. Do you think it is the coil also? 2. I am starting it with a 12 volt battery. (I want to start it before I go out and buy a new battery) Will that damage anything if I do not have a resistor on it? Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.

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John M

11-27-2001 19:41:15




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 Re: I need fire! in reply to AGR538, 11-27-2001 15:15:32  
I`d get a 6v batt, check to make sure ign. switch is working,cap,rotor, plug\coil wires are OK, put in new points & hot plugs,(ch D21) then pull start it if necessary. Points, and not the coil, are usually the "culprit" when you have no spark.



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JDP

11-30-2001 20:16:35




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 Re: Re: I need fire! in reply to John M, 11-27-2001 19:41:15  
I haven't had very good luck with D21's. I would go with AC C87's. If it has the Delco distributor like mine, you can't go wrong with AC plugs with an AC Delco distributor.



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Lyall

11-27-2001 18:17:29




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 Re: I need fire! in reply to AGR538, 11-27-2001 15:15:32  
I haven't tried this yet but I'm going to. Has anyone else tried it on a 6v. Seems to be a way of isolating the 12v from the 6v.

Leave everything the same as it now is (6 volt). Everything will work the same as it does now. What we're going to do is to add a second battery that will be 12 volt
and will be used for the starter only. This battery will be a 'total loss' battery in that it will not receive any charge from the car and must be charged from an external
source. Connect the postive post of the 12V battery to ground (the car's frame is good) using a battery cable. Pick up a 12V solenoid (like what's on a Ford Falcon) and
a starter button that does not go to ground. We want to feed through the starter button to the solenoid... not have a grounded starter button system. The 12V solenoid
bolt flange has to be grounded so bolt the solenoid to the car's frame. Next run a 12V battery cable from the negative post of the 12V battery to the solenoid. Install the
new 12V starter button in the dash. I locate it in under the lip of the dash somewhere near the dash's middle to keep from getting it confused with the 6V button. You
sure don't want to run both at the same time!!! Now run two 16 gauge wires from the 12V solenoid to the new 12V starter button. One will go from the same terminal
as the incoming 12V cable from the battery (this is the 12V source) to one terminal on the 12V starter button. The other 16 gauge wire will go from the small threaded
terminal of the solenoid (left side as you look at it) to the other terminal on the 12V starter button. All that's left is to run a 12V battery cable from the other large
terminal on the 12V solenoid to the starter. This will go directly on top of the existing 6 volt cable at the starter itself. Now you can start it with 6V or 12V. I use 6V all
the time unless it hesitates. Then I hit the 12V. What's neat is that the entire 6V is going to the distributor and none is going to crank the engine. Consequently the
ignition spark is hotter and will start easier. If you're 6V goes dead, but you're running a 6V generator, you can start the engine using 12V since the generator will charge
enough at cranking speed to fire the distributor. I've found that I only have to charge my 12V once a year on an overnight trickle charge. If you're a purist you can hide
the 12V battery behind your spare or remove it for judging. If I didn't explain this enough, please tell me and I'll do better.

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Steven@nd with a link for your 6/12 battery!

11-28-2001 07:28:28




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 Re: Re: I need fire! in reply to Lyall, 11-27-2001 18:17:29  
The site is actually myclassiccar.com



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Pawnee

11-28-2001 05:53:37




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 Re: Re: I need fire! in reply to Lyall, 11-27-2001 18:17:29  
Hey Lyall, just for information because i don't know how much they were but on the TV program Chrome and Crank they featured a company that made batteries for a sitution like you talked about. Classic car restorations that wanted a oringinal looking battery but had 12v starting capability. In fact one was two batteries in one, all lights and accessries 6v and the ignition switch activated the 12v to spin the starter only. Chrome and Crank has a website that should allow you to find the link to this manufacturer.

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Baggsy

11-27-2001 17:39:48




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 Re: I need fire! in reply to AGR538, 11-27-2001 15:15:32  
The local Sams Club here has 6 volt batteries real cheap with a one year guarentee. Not near as good as the Interstate's, but should be enough to get you by for awhile...



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JDP

11-27-2001 15:30:17




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 Re: I need fire! in reply to AGR538, 11-27-2001 15:15:32  
Yes, jumping a 6 volt system with a 12 volt battery will cook the coil. Go out and buy a good 6 volt battery. I would only go with an Interstate battery, they never let me down in any of my 6 volt tractors. Have you drained the gas and put fresh in? Also, check the points while you are at it. You could even have a bad condenser. Change the plugs too. The old H should take off then.



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