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Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C

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Bayou Bill

01-10-2002 18:27:50




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Were the cultivators solid red? When removing rust it looks like parts of it was blue. Repainting and would like to go back with orginal colors. Thanks




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The Dukester

01-11-2002 12:00:34




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 Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Bayou Bill, 01-10-2002 18:27:50  
It's sort of curious--to me, at least, how IH painted most of their implements. Generally speaking it seems they painted frames amd stationary parts red, then about anything that moved, such as axles, subframes, gang frames and shielding devices blue, but then, the shanks, brackets, toolbars, and in the plow case, drawbars, were black, along with the creamy white wheels and rims,etc. I'll always remember, having set up some of it, and using it from new on, how attractive IH implements were. It seemed to me(an IH worshiper at the time) that IH equipment was just so much more attractive than other mfr's. stuff--even John Deere, which I admit, I have always admired some too. I know, I'm nostalgic old f--t sometimes.

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Jim Becker

01-11-2002 09:42:13




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 Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Bayou Bill, 01-10-2002 18:27:50  
I will agree with everything said on this thread except for the working tools. The shanks, clamps, weeders spring teeth etc. typically were black. If you look closely at the cover picture of Guy's Data Book, you can see the shanks and clamps are black. This can be verified by looking at the paint committee decisions in the archives.

The actual shovels, sweeps etc. were unpainted and covered with varnish.

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ralph

01-11-2002 13:52:37




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 Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Jim Becker, 01-11-2002 09:42:13  
JimBecker: Your quite sharp and if the archive say so then it's gotta be. But he asked about a super C and I wonder if it's possible that series is different. I just had ta get up and walk outside and look at mine for a C and their blue. At any rate the post above is right in that IHC did look good painted up in various colors. Can't knock red white and blue these days. r.



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Jim Becker

01-11-2002 15:22:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to ralph, 01-11-2002 13:52:37  
I'm willing to back off part way.

I haven't specificly looked for paint decisions on the Super C cultivators. I have gone through pretty closely looking for Cub implement information once in a while. They would occasionally have a color that was specific to a tractor model, but not very often. Those sorts of exceptions would usually be parts that were specific to a model, not common use parts like shanks.

I also believe that what happened at the factory wasn't necessarily always what the paint decisions said. This was especially true of spares, which seemed to get whatever the paint booth was already set up for. My dad had on hand a whole bin full of new clamps. All were black except one was mixed in that was blue. I think I have that clamp on a Cub cultivator that is otherwise totally repainted red.

The time of the red pigment shortage after WWII is one where it got real confusing for a while. The paint decisions from then call out a lot of blue as a substitute to be used during the shortage. But it wasn't always clear when/what/if colors got changed back. Most of that should have been straightened out before '53 but did show up on a lot of Cub, Super A and C implements.

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ralph

01-11-2002 22:10:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Jim Becker, 01-11-2002 15:22:52  
Jim Becker: Thanks and I should've mentioned mine is an early '48 C. Your comments say much blue was subsituted so thats maybe why mine is blue. r.



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Jim Becker

01-12-2002 06:28:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to ralph, 01-11-2002 22:10:01  
I see that you posted a response to Guy Fay's "Painting IH Implements" comment and have been looking at the paint decisions. I try to go through all the relevant paint decisions before I start to paint an implement. I also try to carefully look the imlpement over for any remaining signs of the original paint. Unfortunately, sometimes it gets hard to tell the original from the repaints.

One other thing I try to keep in mind is that evidently the factory would bundle a bunch of parts together and paint the whole bunch at once. Also the painting was done after subassemblies were completed. This was evident when they were new as the tie wires that held bundles together were usually painted the same is whatever they were holding. Since masking didn't happen, everything in a bundle or subassembly was the same color. Sometimes, a look at the set-up instructions that came with each implement give you a good idea what parts were painted together.

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Mark A

01-11-2002 08:24:32




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 Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Bayou Bill, 01-10-2002 18:27:50  
My cultivators and planters for my Super C appear to have been all blue. I have cultivating "shields" that havent been used much that are, for sure, blue.



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Bayou Bill

01-11-2002 18:41:33




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 Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Mark A, 01-11-2002 08:24:32  
Thanks to everyone for the information. You have been very helpful. I have looked at all the pictures posted, but did not see any on this type cultivator. I thought that I could remember some blue on the cultivator but had forgotten about the black pieces. Thanks



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ralph

01-10-2002 19:48:56




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 Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Bayou Bill, 01-10-2002 18:27:50  
Bayou Bill: Mine is covered with snow but on the front cover of Guy Fays IH tractor DATA BOOK there is a H with cultivator. There are probably a couple variations but the shanks and square bars were blue. All above that is red. They look good painted up red & blue. I also think the shields were blue too. That picture will help. R.



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J.D. Humm

01-11-2002 02:23:27




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 Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to ralph, 01-10-2002 19:48:56  
You are correct on the colors, Ralph. I have one as well, it is repainted but the original paint was quite visible before hand and I was able to repaint exactly the way it was from the factory. The bar that goes on the fast hitch to wipe out the tire tracks was all blue.



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ralph

01-11-2002 07:22:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to J.D. Humm, 01-11-2002 02:23:27  
JD Humm: A non-fasthitch had a large U (inverted) flat bar about 2 1/2 inches wide across from one side to the other side on rear sections. This was blue also. Boy do we have detailed history\info on this forum or what..(g) R.



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J.D. Humm

01-11-2002 15:46:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to ralph, 01-11-2002 07:22:07  
You got that right, Ralph. About any question anyone has someone has an answer for, what one doesn't know the other one does. What amazes me is some of the topics that come up that I knew about at one time but had completely forgotten about until I see it here- some really jar my feeble brain.



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Leo

01-10-2002 19:14:03




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 Re: Paint colors for cultivators for '53 Super C in reply to Bayou Bill, 01-10-2002 18:27:50  
Yes, I do remember some blue on the cultivators. Maybe the shanks?



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