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Bill

02-19-2002 17:19:26




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I am in need of help to identify the transmission in a tractor I just bought. This is long story, but I want to include everthing I know so that maybe someone who is knowledgeable about IH tractors might give me the information I need to complete the project. Here we go, I bought a Schramm backhoe/loader with a broken motor. No.1 connecting rod came out through the side of the block. The previous owner told me the the person who owned it before him put in a 6 cylinder motor from a 1969 Travelall. I have the parts manual for both the tractor and the backhoe. The transmission is from IH. The casting number on the transmission is 367050R1. It is located on the right side just forward of the brake pedals. I don't know if that number helps. The parts book lists three different transmissions used. They are all made by IHC. The transmission in the tractor appears to match up with two of the illustrations. They are called IHC I-4 and IHC I-4-A. Do these numbers identify a particular transmission made by IHC in a farm tractor. If they do, which ones? Let me give a brief description of the transmission. The shifter is on the left side of the steering column and runs low almost on the floor, then bends up. The steering column is mounted on top of the transmission and leans toward the driver at about a 45 degree angle. There is a hand lever to the right of the steering column which is a throttle control along with the foot pedal. The reason I want to identify the transmission is that my plan is to install a motor, clutch, and flywheel that correctly bolts up with a minimum of fabrication. I don't want to put another truck engine in. The set-up had caused the front mounted hydraulic pump coupler to fail, and the homemade connection from the flywheel to the input shaft of the transmission is badly worn. I don't think that I could ever find the motor Schramm put in this unit. The best that I can tell, the tractor was built about 1956.
Any help is very much appreciated. I don't know very much about IH tractors, but I'm learning. I know people that could probably find the stuff I need to finish my project, I just have to able to tell them what I need.

Thanks, Bill

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Steven@nd

02-20-2002 10:03:26




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 Re: Need Help to Identify Transmission in reply to Bill, 02-19-2002 17:19:26  
Would have to agree that your transmission is from an I-4 International. These transmissions had different gear ratios than the W-4 series and they also had a transmission brake for quicker shifting.

Any engine from an H/W4/I4/300/350 should bolt right up for you. If the tractor you are describing is indeed a 1956 model then the engine from a 300 would be correct.

Do you know if it had live hydralics at one time? If so, the 300/350 motor is for you.

Steven

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Bill

02-20-2002 18:09:04




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 Re: Re: Need Help to Identify Transmission in reply to Steven@nd, 02-20-2002 10:03:26  
Thanks for the information guys. I printed off the stuff that you gave me. There is a big farm equipment sale on Thursday and Friday. I'm going over to see what is for sale. If I don't find it there, I'll keep looking. This might turn out to be fun!
If anyone has any good leads to finding any or all of the stuff I need, let me know. I live in southeast Pa.

Bill



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Steve T

02-19-2002 18:29:16




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 Re: Need Help to Identify Transmission in reply to Bill, 02-19-2002 17:19:26  
Hi Bill, I dont have a parts book to match the casting numbers, but from what you say, the transmission and diferential are from a IHC tractor model I-4. The I-4 was the industrial version of the International W-4. The W-4 tractor shared the engine and transmission from the Farmall "H" tractor. If Im correct, the gear ratios from a I-4 were a bit different then that from a W-4, O-4 , OS-4, and the "H". Its my guess that you could most likely use the engine and complete transmission from an "H" in the schramm . You will have better luck finding an "H" for parts then you will finding any of the 4 series tractors because there were way more "H's" built then the $. Hope this helps. Steve T

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