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Bought a 1466

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Bill Johnson

04-10-2002 19:48:36




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Hello all.

I live in north central arkansas (ozarks) and just bought myself a Farmall 1466 tonight for $3,000

It's a strong tractor, no leaks, doesnt seem to be an oil hog, has a grader blade and two post rops on it.

It's not a show tractor by any means, and it is really quite a bit bigger than what I was looking for (I was originally searching for 50-70 hp) but I think I will be pretty happy with it.

OK, heres the question - does that seem like a valid price for one of these? Had a couple of folks tell me I could have gotten away with about 500 less, but heck a Ford 4000 sells for 5000 around here, as long as it runs.

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Bill Johnson

04-12-2002 19:50:04




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
OK, Ive got a question.

I have the manuals on order for my 1466, but I would like to know if anyone has an idea as to where the glow plug wires are suppose to run. I think the rubber covered pushbutton in the center is for the glow plugs, but it is not connected to anything.

Oh, and what is the lamp for next to the keyswitch?

The only things I have that work are the keyswitch, the starter button, and the oil pressure gauge.

Does anyone know a normal or average spin-down time for the turbo from warm idle? I am sitting at about 35 seconds, but it's loud, definitely sounds like it is running on rough bearings.

Thanks in advance

Bill J.

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Hugh MacKay

04-12-2002 20:20:12




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 Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-12-2002 19:50:04  
Bill: Your tractor doesn't have glow plugs. The button you are refering to is probably the ether injection. It has system piped to a nozzel on intake manifold. Very fine spray. Hugh



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Bill Johnson

04-12-2002 20:39:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-12-2002 20:20:12  
Thanks Hugh

You ca tell how much of the wiring I have traced huh?

Been busy playing. I prefer not to use ether, so I guess that will stay unhooked.

Thank you again.



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Steven@nd

04-11-2002 07:40:11




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
Don't worry about the fuel consumption mentioned below. We use our 1086 (150hp) for jobs way under its power. Same with our 2590 Case (205hp). Just shift up and throttle down, let the engine run slower, the IH DT400 series engines were made to lug.

Steven



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Hugh MacKay

04-11-2002 18:53:18




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 Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Steven@nd, 04-11-2002 07:40:11  
hogwash Steven that 1066 or 1466 or either 86 will burn more fuel sitting in backyard at idle than 656 will working. Why, because it has a turbo.I put thousands of hours on these tractors. In 1970s I had four tractors doing a 1000 hours per year.



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Steven@nd

04-12-2002 10:31:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-11-2002 18:53:18  
Sorry, Hugh, but turbocharged engines are proven more efficient. Our 656 was a bigger hog than our 1256 for idle to mid throttle loader work.

Steven



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Hugh MacKay

04-12-2002 19:39:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Steven@nd, 04-12-2002 10:31:20  
Steven: Had to leave in hurry before. In your posts you refer a lot about Farmalls and loaders. As far as I am concerned a front end loader is the most inefficient use of a FARMALL I ever heard tell of. I had two Case 1737 uniloaders, (one at each farm) back in 70s and they would lick the H out of any Farmsll 560 or 656 with a 2000 IH loader and they only cost half the money. You name it loading gravel,manure, round bales, etc. And they would reach just as high. Hugh

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Hugh MacKay

04-12-2002 17:01:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Steven@nd, 04-12-2002 10:31:20  
Steven: I would like to see the proof of that proven fact. On my farm every gallon of diesel that went into each tractor was recorded. On just over 10,000 hours 656 average 1.1 gph; 560 same engine but cranking a 100 hp, 11,000 hours, 1.75 gph; 1066 each time on dyno aprox. 160 hp, 9,500 hours, 4.65 gph. After the first year, every time that 1066 was started it was for 15 ton manure spreader, 20 ft. disk, 20 ft. cultivator and New Holland 890 Forage Harvester and NEVER for anything else. Look at the big three diesel pickups, since they added turbos. Great if you want to haul 100hp tractor on fifth wheel at 60 mph, and most of em don't have the brakes for that. What about the 90% of time you want to haul a diesel nurse tank, few tools and spare parts. Non of them will match the old 6.2 Chevy or 6.9 IH naturally aspired. I could go into highway tractors, would take too long, but I have had experience all the way to 140,000 lbs. gross. My opinion STILL HOGWASH on your statment. Hugh

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Bill Johnson

04-12-2002 19:28:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-12-2002 17:01:37  
OK, I a new here. please do not consider this flaming.

My day job includes teaching. Specifically, I teach eletronic fuel control for diesel (liquid), natural gas, and liguid fuel engines, both reciprocating and rotating, in stationary industrial applications.

I currently work for Rolls-Royce, but use to work for Cooper-Bessemer (if anybody knows who they are anymore). So much for the resume.

Turbos on Diesel engines are designed to pack more air into a cylinder, so you can put more fuel in. It's the only reason they are there on diesel - it's a different story for gaseoues fuels.

This more air lets you add more fuel. Diesel's engine really uses a very very specific air-fuel ratio, so adding more air gets you more fuel, and more horsepower.

Sorry if I made anyone mad.

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Farmall Don

04-11-2002 06:17:28




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
I bought my 706 for $2,950 in 1999. It real clean, but its only a 70hp tractor. I think you got a good deal.



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Hugh MacKay

04-11-2002 02:09:12




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
If you only needed 70-80 hp, you may find you have a fuel hog on your hands. When farming I found the only jobs you could afford to use these big IH turbos for were jobs that required every inch of horsepower they had. I had IH 240 round baler, 656 or 560 diesels would bale just as fast at around one gal fuel per hour. 656 was faster than 1066 on baler because it was more agile 1066 would pour through 4-5 gal per hour on baler. It didn't burn much more than that on 22 ft disk or NH 890 forage harvester. You will also find that big tractor more troublesome mechanically if its not working to capacity. Parts counter will make you WEEP.

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Loren

04-10-2002 22:21:35




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
Post a picture of it Bill. I'd like to see what 3 grand can do.



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Bill Johnson

04-12-2002 19:10:53




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 Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Loren, 04-10-2002 22:21:35  
Here it is. Took this the next day.

If the link doesnt work, search for '1466' and click on the Bill Johnson one. I can promise it's allot uglier than the other two shown.

Link



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Tom

04-10-2002 20:13:20




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
Here in western Iowa, 1066's and 1466's bring anywhere from $5500 to $9000. You got a lot of horsepower for $3000. I think you got a good deal.



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Jonathan

04-10-2002 20:11:47




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 Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Bill Johnson, 04-10-2002 19:48:36  
wow you just bought yourself a 140 horse tractor and for $3,000 you stole it!. Around here in VT you couldn't buy a clunker for that, Those tractors are around $6,500 and up. My boss has a 1466 4wd. two reasons why I don't care for the 66 series as much as the 86 is because the 66 tends to get stuck in a gear from time to time and you have to play with it to get it out. The other reason is the bushings in the shifter get wore out and the tractor doesn't shift as good and needs the shifting linkage rebuilt.
good luck with your new tractor,
Jonathan

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Bill Johnson

04-12-2002 19:16:42




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 Re: Re: Bought a 1466 in reply to Jonathan, 04-10-2002 20:11:47  
Well, I've got about 6 hours on it now, and I can agree with a few of these things. It does tend to get stuck, especially coming out of high gear.

It does NOT like to shift out of second (low or high) I have to hunt several times for 1, 3, & 4

Sticks stuck in the linkage, even little itty bitty ones can cause it not to reverse

Damn good brakes

Airline tires need more tread.

I should probably weld protectors around steering wheel for the damn inner tubes


Other than that, Ilove it

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