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brad finke

08-13-2002 19:17:07




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no rpm change from idle till about half throttle when i disconnect governor rod and throttle rod then hold the governor rod there seems to be a lot of play in the governor housing when i move the throttle back and fourth about a half inch of movement before it starts moving the governor shaft something broke inside????




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Diesel Don

08-13-2002 20:30:09




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 Re: govenor in reply to brad finke, 08-13-2002 19:17:07  
My A has the same engine.It always has done the same thing.My dad told me right after he bought it,the governor spring broke so he made a new one out of an old door spring.It has run like that for close to 50 years!



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ScottyNY

08-13-2002 20:28:24




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 Re: govenor in reply to brad finke, 08-13-2002 19:17:07  
Depends, Brad, on what you're calling the throttle rod. Could be that you're OK and just need some adjusting. The linkage in the whole governor system will have a little slop when the engine isn't running. Leave the right side of the governor hooked up to the control lever back at the seat. With the engine stopped, set the lever all the way forward. Over on the left side, pull the clevis pin that connects the governor rockshaft to the rod that runs back to the throttle on the carb (you may have to loosen the jam nut to do this). Push both parts as far back toward the carb as far as they will go. Thread the clevis so that the pin fits back in with everything held back to the rear, and tighten the jam nut back. Good chance this'll take care of it. If not you may have to go inside the governor for a look around.

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brad

08-14-2002 05:40:02




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 Re: Re: govenor in reply to ScottyNY, 08-13-2002 20:28:24  
i have gone through the adjustments three times i think something is bad inside



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ScottyNY

08-14-2002 08:15:54




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 Re: Re: Re: govenor in reply to brad, 08-14-2002 05:40:02  
Yep! Two things come to mind right off. Diesel Don mentioned the main spring. That's most likely it and is easy enough to replace, but I'd order the right one -- I think the old guy got lucky with the door spring. There is another spring in the thrust shaft of the governor that may be shot. When you have things open, you can pull the thin end of the shaft off and there will be a stout but small diameter spring inside. Those are pretty easy to come by, too. Might as well replace it while you're in there if it looks iffy. Also check the condition of the spring on the bumper adjustment. That one is especially susceptible to rusting from condensation because it sits in a recess in the bottom of the gov. housing and it's important to have that to balance the tension against the main spring. One of these or some combination ought to get you running better. Only caution opening the gov up is to watch out for the bearing on the thrust shaft. Keep a shoebox or something under the whole thing when you open it in case the balls fall out of the bearing, then get some assembly lube or light grease on it to hild it together until you reassemble things. Good luck!

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brad

08-13-2002 19:33:24




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 Re: govenor in reply to brad finke, 08-13-2002 19:17:07  
forgot to say this is a B farmall



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Jim

08-14-2002 14:33:22




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 Re: Re: govenor in reply to brad, 08-13-2002 19:33:24  
I just went through the governor on my dad's (now mine) 1954 Cub. He told me it had not worked properly for some time. I found the stop ring on the shaft was not in the groove. It was about 1/4 inch too far down the shaft. The excess movement had let the weights wear on the housing. Everything else seemed ok. I'm guessing that if everything had been in proper balance it might not have mattered because the bounce spring should have held it, but once out tough to get to work right.

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