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Buying a 706

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Bob

09-18-2002 19:27:06




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I am looking at a 706D, nice sheet metal,3pt,torque, tires,etc. It has the farmall engine.Is there any to look for, or ck before buying? Thanks, Bob




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Larry W

09-20-2002 20:37:46




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 Re: buying a 706 in reply to Bob , 09-18-2002 19:27:06  
Bob, I have a 706 two 806's,656 & 856 all diesel. The 706 & 656 have the same motor except I installed a turbo on the 706 and turned up the pump for more hp. The 706 has the same rear end as the 806's and can take the extra hp. The 656 has about the same transmission as the old 560, but to me all IH tractors are great. You just have to pick the right one for the job you want to do.



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Hugh MacKay

09-21-2002 03:03:51




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 Re: Re: buying a 706 in reply to Larry W, 09-20-2002 20:37:46  
I have to agree with you Larry, these tractors are all good tractors. Just pick the right one for the job. For example the 656 being a lighter chassis is by far the best tractor on items like mower conditioners or balers. They all have more than enough hp for those jobs. The 656 is lighter thus more agile. It will also be more fuel efficient on those lighter jobs. I know it is the same engine as the 706, but the pump is set different and 540 rpm take off on 706 is at 2300 engine rpm, on the 656 it is at 1800 engine rpm.

The key to efficiency on diesel engines is keep the rpm down. Most of them develop their maximum torque at 1500 rpm or less. Just yesterday two of us were running dump trucks both IH DT466. He never passed me all day, we both hauled same number of loads. Engines are governed 2700 rpm. I drive rarely exceeding 2000 rpm, he on other hand has pedal on floor all the time. At the end of the day we fueled up. My truck took 150litres he was over 200litres. He can't understand how I do that, I haven't bothered to tell him either. He likes the roar of that diesel on the mat.

The 706 would have been a far better and far more efficient tractor had IH used the same engine as 806 and given it standard pto 540 rpm at 1800 and tuned it to suit. Just one of the many stupid mistakes at IH.

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Tim Malin

09-19-2002 16:47:58




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 Re: buying a 706 in reply to Bob , 09-18-2002 19:27:06  
Bob, I would hate to be you. You come here for help and you get a response that it was a good engine and a respone that it was bad. You have a response that the 656 wasn't as good and a response that the 656 was better. How do you decide like that? I personally cannot input, but I had to reply reading such posts as that. Mark my words, absolutely NO offense should be taken by either Paul or Ed, I was just pointing out the difference in opinions. We need to have those too. Thanks for the laugh.

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Bob

09-19-2002 20:50:15




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 Re: Re: buying a 706 in reply to Tim Malin, 09-19-2002 16:47:58  
Tim; Thanks to you and all the rest, for the information. I'll ck into this one more closely. Thanks again guys! Bob



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Ed

09-19-2002 19:07:58




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 Re: Re: buying a 706 in reply to Tim Malin, 09-19-2002 16:47:58  
No offense taken.

It's a tough decision with 2 for the 706 and one against. Some have had good lock with the 706 but they seem to sit in victory lane (our place for old equipment) a lot more than other tractors. They also sell for less than an equivlant tractor - their is a reason.

I'm not going to change the mind of the 2 individuals that love their tractors and feel bad about saying something less then positive.

But if your purchasing this model be careful. A lot of 282 have had trouble starting and starting fluid used quite a bit. Starting fluid is real tough on an engine

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AceS

09-19-2002 12:42:21




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 Re: buying a 706 in reply to Bob , 09-18-2002 19:27:06  
706D 282 was not a troubled tractor with the tight sleeves they were good engines, do need to use the glow plugs because that is the way engine was built. glow plug in cylinder much better than in the intake manifold like other brands. don't let engine stop you.



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Paul

09-19-2002 12:20:48




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 Re: buying a 706 in reply to Bob , 09-18-2002 19:27:06  
Great tractor got one hear on the farm and has the 282 engine with glow plugs.These tractors will go forever and are better than the 656 .



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09-19-2002 09:19:32




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 Re: buying a 706 in reply to Bob , 09-18-2002 19:27:06  
what is 'the farmall engine'.



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Ed

09-19-2002 10:24:25




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 Re: Re: buying a 706 in reply to ???, 09-19-2002 09:19:32  
Don't do it. Not one of IH's better tractors. I'd try for a 656 or 856 - 666 or 966

I'd ask a lot of questions about the service of the tractor and when the engine was last overhauled. Many people have installed the German Diesel engine to fix the engine problems.

It generally was a troubled tractor - that's why they bring less $$$ in a sale.

Good luck



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