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blarson

12-28-2002 05:42:57




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I removed the oil pan from a Super H and there were 2 holes on the left side of the block filled with cork. Thinking it was accumulated crud I removed it. What is the purpose of those plugs and do they need to be replaced? Also 2 bolts are longer than the rest Where fo the long bolts go when reinstalling the oil pan




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Rollie

12-28-2002 12:40:07




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
I think most of the replies have missed on which holes you are referring to. You said the left side of the block but I'm guessing you are asking about the two holes, plugged with cork, on the gasket mating surface between the pan and the block. I always thought they were some kind of indexing hole for the machining processes when the blocks were made. I pull them out and replace with new whenever I send a block to be tanked. I don't know this for sure, just my guess. Rollie

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RC Sprenger

12-28-2002 18:54:00




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 Re: Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to Rollie, 12-28-2002 12:40:07  
Rollie hit it right on the nose. I noticed the same thing when I rebuilt my H. I left the cork in the two holes but I did not know where on the pan the two longer bolts went. When I reassembled I put one of the long bolts where the oil breather pipe support bracket goes.



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RC Sprenger

12-28-2002 18:51:04




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 Re: Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to Rollie, 12-28-2002 12:40:07  
Rollie hit it right on the nose. I noticed the same thing when I rebuilt my H. I left the cork in the two holes but I did not know where on the pan the two longer bolts went. When I reassembled I put one of the long bolts where the oil breather pipe support bracket goes.



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blarson

12-28-2002 15:11:44




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 Re: Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to Rollie, 12-28-2002 12:40:07  
Thanks to all for your replies My description was incomplete but Rollie described it better than I did I will replace the cork before I reinstall the pan



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Rollie

12-28-2002 12:39:20




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
I think most of the replies have missed on which holes you are referring to. You said the left side of the block but I'm guessing you are asking about the two holes, plugged with cork, on the gasket mating surface between the pan and the block. I always thought they were some kind of indexing hole for the machining processes when the blocks were made. I pull them out and replace with new whenever I send a block to be tanked. I don't know this for sure, just my guess. Rollie

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Phil Auten (Tx)

12-28-2002 12:01:03




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
The corks were placed in the holes at the factory to keep the holes clean so implements that mounted using these holes would have clean threads for the bolts. Around here, hole bees fill the ends of the holes with their eggs inside. When the eggs hatch, the larvae make a hole in the white covering and crawl or fly away to find food. Any hole on any of my tractors that has an empty hole has a hole bee cover over it now, usually with a small hole in it. If I wanted to use these holes now, I would have to clean them out and chase the threads with a tap (after I bought the tap).

Phil

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Bob M

12-28-2002 08:02:57




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
I agree with Guy - if those corks are in the side of the pan, someone had substituted corks for the original oil level try cocks. (Incidentally the gas Super H is equipped with try cocks same as the distillate models)

I recently had the pan down on my Super H. As I recall the two longer capscrews go at the rear of the pan. They are the two closest to, and either side of, the rear main bearing.

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Mike ISW

12-28-2002 07:58:25




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
I found cork in a couple holes in block on my H also. During rebuild I replaced with new. I have no idea why they were in there, but there must've been a reason so I replaced. As for those longer bolts I believe they go at the back of the pan towards clutch housing. If I remember right there is a stud at the rear of the pan also. Good Luck, Mike



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Guy Fay

12-28-2002 06:56:57




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
Do you know if your Super H was originally a kerosene or distillate tractor? Soundslike the cork may have been blocking up the trycock holes.



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Hugh MacKay

12-28-2002 05:59:20




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 Re: super h oil pan questions in reply to blarson, 12-28-2002 05:42:57  
Can't tell you of the holes with cork, I would however replace. Best way to find where long bolts go, or my favourite is a wooden match stick. A small awl, screwdriver, nail, etc. will tell you where the deep holes are.



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