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Brian

12-31-2002 11:56:31




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Well I finally got the service manual in the mail, now I'm warming up to reasemble. I have purchased all new bearings, had the crank ground, and had new bushings installed in the piston rods by a engine rebuilder. Today I went to the Parts Supply Store to check out Plastic Gauge. Now I have a couple of questions on using it.

First.
Are you supposed to/ can you use each piece more than once ?

Second
My understanding is that you wrap the stuff around the bearing surface and install the bearing to the proper torque spec, then disasemble and check against the package for clearence. Is it as simple as this ? Are you suppose to use it on both sides of the groves in the bearings ? Any tips ?

Finally,
The place wants to charge 3.50 CDN ( about 2.25 US) for each piece, is that about right ?


Thanks all
Brian.

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bob

12-31-2002 15:32:59




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
Don't use plastigage on both sides of the bearing (connecting rod and cap), as that will give you a reading that is half of what your clearance actually is. I always just put it under the cap, torque, disassemble and measure.



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Brian

12-31-2002 12:53:08




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
thanks for the advice guys ! I never thought of putting the gauge material that way but it makes alot of sence ! I will probably have a lot more questions in the near future, thanks in advance.

Brian.



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Theman

12-31-2002 12:42:43




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
Brian,

1) No. Once the plastigage has been crushed, you will lose dimensional accuracy. Use a new piece each time.

2) Lay the plastigage crosswise on the bearing surface. Torque the bolts to spec then remove the bearing caps. You can ignore the uncrushed part in the center at the oil groove. You only use short lengths of plastigage this way. Note: To get an accurate measurement, do not allow the weight of the crankshaft or connecting rod to help crush the plastigage. They will register a tighter clearance when you compare the marks on the paper. If measuring the main bearings on a crankshaft in the block still in the frame, jack the crankshaft up against the upper part of the bearing before assembling the cap.

3) Price sounds about right. One piece should do an entire 4-cylinder engine provided you aren't modifying your insert fits..

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Bill Smith

12-31-2002 12:26:39




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
You only use a peice one time. I never did put a peice clear around the bearing. Is what I did is this. Without oiling or prelubing bearing, put dry bearing in dry bearing caps. Place a piece of plasti guage (instead of going around, go the other way) front to back on the crank or bearing. Just one peice and you have to put it on in the matter that it doesn't get smashed by weight of parts (gravity) in the assembling process. Placing a piece of plasti guage and then putting entire weight of crank on top of it won't be accurate in other words. Do crank shaft main bearings only, and first. Assemble and use torque specs. Then disassemble and compare the plastiguage to chart. If it is proper clearance then prelube bearings and reassemble. Remove plasti guage and the bearings have to stay in the same cap as tested in. Then you can do rod bearings in the same nature one at a time. With engine out and upside down, I do all mains at the same time. If in tractor I torque all main caps to spec and then do the plasti guage check one bearing at a time with the other caps torqued during the entire process.

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JRM

12-31-2002 12:22:37




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
Brian, if you look at the packaging of plastigage, you will see it is printed in separate sections. You tear off a section about an inch long. Wipe your crank journal dry, lay the plastigage parallel to the crank journal. Put the bearing cap on and torque to specs.. Next, take the cap off, lay the printed section against the flattened plastigage to measure clearance. I hope this is understandable. Its easier to do than to explain. If you need more info, one of the others will help out. I think I have some pictures when I did my crank. If I do, I will post them tomorrow.

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Big Jim

12-31-2002 12:20:22




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 Re: Using Plastic Gauge in reply to Brian, 12-31-2002 11:56:31  
Plasti-Gage can only be used once. You break off a piece and lay it cross wise on your bearing. I'm not sure what you mean by both sides of the groove? Do you mean both halves of the bearing? As far as the price you quoted, that sounds about right.



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