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Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement.

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Bob G

05-17-2003 18:08:07




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Them M that I got from my Mom that sat for 15 years has developed a leak on the shaft that comes out of the lift-all and into the tranny. The tranny seal is the one that is leaking. How do I go about dropping the lift-all and replacing the bearing?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Bob G




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Jonesy

05-18-2003 08:57:02




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 Re: Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement. in reply to Bob G, 05-17-2003 18:08:07  
There isnt much to pulling the lift-all. I had my wife ( who's 9 months pregnant) help by lowering it with a floor jack and cribbing while I held it steaddy on the way down. Then the same way back up. Nothing to it. I also replaced that seal myself while replacing a clutch shaft joint ring. The bad thing was after getting everthing back in place I changed the oil in the lift-all and THAT seal developed a leak. I CANT WIN!!

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williamf

05-18-2003 04:21:00




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 Re: Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement. in reply to Bob G, 05-17-2003 18:08:07  
When I replaced that seal on my H I had the Liftall out anyway, and maybe the M is different, but I would have thought that if all you want to do is replace the seal on the transmission side there would be room to do it with the Liftall in place. But I often think things can be done that can't.
Wm



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Haas

05-18-2003 08:47:31




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 Re: Re: Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement. in reply to williamf, 05-18-2003 04:21:00  
The M is different than the H. On the H, there is some room between the driving and driven parts between the front of the transmission and the back of the Lift All. On the M, there is no room in there. The countershaft to lift all connection is essentially a direct connection. You have to remove the lift all to get to the counter shaft and transmission seals. In fact, you can't even remove the shaft coupling to the lift all without dropping the lift all down some.

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Kelly C

05-17-2003 20:38:29




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 Re: Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement. in reply to Bob G, 05-17-2003 18:08:07  
Here is how I did it on my H. M's are simular.
Just click on this link and scroll down and find the links for Lift all removal and trasns seal replace.



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Haas

05-17-2003 18:28:13




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 Re: Seal between Lift-all and tranny on M replacement. in reply to Bob G, 05-17-2003 18:08:07  
One way to remove the lift all is to replace the 4 3/8 inch bolts that hold it in one at a time with threaded rod. Put nuts on the rods and then thread it down, being careful not to unscrew the rods out of the clutch housing. First though, you need to drain the lift all of oil and remove the elbows (they unscrew) for the hydraulic connections and remove the operating lever. Also I think you have to remove the oil fill cap. There is a "cross" coupling that drives the lift all. It fits in slots in the drive and driven coupling pieces that are on the transmission shaft and the lift all shaft. One of the "crosses" has to be vertical in order to lower the lift all. The seals run on the coupler pieces that screw onto the transmission counter shaft and onto the lift all. Unscrew those pieces and then you can remove the seal holder/bearing retainer and replace the seals. Lock the countershaft to unscrew the thing by putting the PTO in gear and holding it from turning. I use an old PTO universal joint yoke piece for that. You jam something in the gears of the lift all pump to hold it from turning. These things can be difficult if jammed on tight. I had to dissasemble my lift all and build a jig to hold the and keep the shaft from turning. I was afraid a metal object (like a screwdriver) jammed in the gears would damage them. While you have the lift all out, it's a good time to redo the clutch if it needs it(another longer story), or at least inspect it.

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