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Farmall super a hydraulics

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bryan meade

06-03-2003 10:50:59




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i bought an adapter block for a 1946 super a hydruaulics, it sandwiches between the pipe plate and the touch controll unit under the gas tank. my question is this, which line is pressure or supply and which line is return or resevoir line. top or bottom? id rather not figure it out with tryal and error.

any help is greatly appreciated




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gene b

06-04-2003 20:22:24




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 Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to bryan meade, 06-03-2003 10:50:59  
The small line is pressure and the big is the return.



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Brian CNY

06-03-2003 17:54:03




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 Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to bryan meade, 06-03-2003 10:50:59  
Where do you get one of those blocks? I'm thinking about putting external hyd. on my 140.
Thanks, Brian



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Red Rider

06-03-2003 19:42:49




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 Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Brian CNY, 06-03-2003 17:54:03  
Brian, If your after external hydraulics on your Super A why not get the factory option valve for external hydraulic operation. They might be kind of hard to find off a Super A/100/130 or 140 but the valve and the hydraulic lines off any Super C, 200, or 230 that had a 2 point on it are the same. I put one on my 100 off a 230 works like a charm.



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Stan(VA).

06-04-2003 05:56:15




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 Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Red Rider, 06-03-2003 19:42:49  
That 230 must have been a strange bird. You are right in that SC/200 remote valve will fit the SA/100... series but the 230 and 240 came with hydra-touch instead of touch control which is a whole different animal under the gas tank. I've heard of one other person that said he saw a 230 with the earlier touch control system, but everyone I've seen so far had the later style, which seems to agree with the parts book. Who knows... ;)
Stan(VA).

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Hugh MacKay

06-04-2003 11:48:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Stan(VA)., 06-04-2003 05:56:15  
Stan: I understand that a 230 could be ordered with same system as the SC and 200. IH had to accomidate customers wanting to use their older front mount cultivators. It sounds reasonable, and nothing physical to prevent this. I have seen one of these only recently though. My initial thoughts were someone changed this, and on that particular tractor that may be what happened. I have since been advised that it may have been factory.

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Randy in NE

06-03-2003 10:59:09




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 Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to bryan meade, 06-03-2003 10:50:59  
If it like on my C, the larger diameter line is the suction/low pressure to the pump and the smaller one is the high pressure one. I would guess that it is quite similar on the Super A. I am sure that Hugh MacKay can straighten me out if this is wrong.



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Hugh MacKay

06-03-2003 15:34:18




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 Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Randy in NE, 06-03-2003 10:59:09  
Benn so long since I've had one of these apart I had to think a min. Your right small line is always the high presure.



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bryan meade

06-03-2003 11:22:55




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 Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Randy in NE, 06-03-2003 10:59:09  
that makes sense, just like water lines...small lines are high presure lines like for the faucets and the big lines are returns or like the sewer ones. THANKS FOR THE INFO! its appreciated. and btw whos is Hugh MacKay, is he the moderator or something?



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Randy in NE

06-03-2003 11:57:18




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 Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to bryan meade, 06-03-2003 11:22:55  
No. Hugh is our resident expert on A's, 130's, and 140's along with farm equipment in general. He has been around them and worked on them for many years. He has probably forgotten more than most of the rest of us ever knew. Hugh, you can just mail me a quarter (US) for the good plug :>).



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Hugh MacKay

06-03-2003 15:56:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Randy in NE, 06-03-2003 11:57:18  
Randy: I don't use the postal service anymore. Last item I sent with them I could have delivered it on foot faster. I'll catch you someday when your asking a question.

Seriously guys there is a lot of good advice on here. Just yesterday I had a visit from geneb. That put 128 years of Farmall A, SA, etc. experience on my back deck. Gene made me a bit nervous before his arival he sent an e mail suggesting we should be able to get the Farmall talk out of the way before the snow flies. I couldn't quite picture neither off us being on forums until Christmas. With the two of us together, talking FARMALLS, no way you guys would get our attention.

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DAVEABBN

06-03-2003 18:00:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-03-2003 15:56:10  
Can't get enough tractor talk, especially; farmall
I mostly listen, and print the info that I feel
I might need in the future. I have a large file
tucked away. I check the board most every day.
Thanks to Hugh, and all the other people who respond to the questions.



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Another Brian

06-04-2003 19:24:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydraulics in reply to DAVEABBN, 06-03-2003 18:00:33  
Can someone explain how this block works ? I have a loader for my Super A and have to toggle the touch control back and forth in order to supply the pressure to the valve to raise the bucket. My understanding of this block is that it allows continuous pressure. If i can understand how it works, I can hopefully fabricate one.

Thanks.



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Randy in NE

06-05-2003 04:54:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hydrau in reply to Another Brian, 06-04-2003 19:24:40  
The touch control unit is designed so that once the rockshafts are in the desire postion in relation to the control lever position then the unit bypasses internally. To get high pressure to the two way cylinder on my jury-rigged system I had to devise a way to way to keep the rockshaft from moving. I took a short piece of log chain and ran it from the rockshaft to the culitvator mounting bolt on the front of the tractor. Not pretty but it works. I had to put a shut-off valve in the line to the remote two-way valve to return the rockshaft system to original.

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Brian

06-05-2003 06:19:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super a hy in reply to Randy in NE, 06-05-2003 04:54:35  
That sounds like a similiar setup to what we had/have on ours too with the exception of the chain idea. One question that I have on that though is... If you are restaining the rockshaft, that means that the system is always in high pressure ( correct me if I'm wrong ), do you bring the rockshaft into a position that will take the tension off the chain when you are done using the loader ? I've heard it said on here that the pump is not continuous duty rated, and would be worried that you may burn out your pump. Another question... my mainfold on the hydraulic unit has "aux." ports, including one very small one. We tapped off the high pressure line, and went to the input on the valve (which also has the tap you talked about ), the return was plumbed an external resovoir which is part of the henderson loader system. My second question really is... why do you need this "sandwhich block" if all it does is gives you aux ports ? don't all these tractor have the aux. ports right on the existing manifold system ?

Thanks as always.
Brian.

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Randy in NE

06-05-2003 12:09:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: farmall super in reply to Brian, 06-05-2003 06:19:46  
I did not use a fabricated manifold. I just tapped into the ports on the block where the supply and return line go into the touch control unit. The pump is a direct drive unit and is always pumping fluid. If you are not using the loader you could move the touch control lever forward so that it is bypassing as normal in the unit. I had to add a 2.5 gal reservior tank so that I can lift the hoist on a grain wagon. Like Not fancy but it works for me.

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