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Different styles of live hydraulics on Super M's

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atw

06-06-2003 10:08:06




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I'm currently looking to buy a '52 Super M that I have only seen pictures of. The tractor has the live hydraulic drive off the timing cover and lines to the back, but there is no large reservoir under the gas tank. I have seen many pictures of Supers, some with this tank, and some without. Is this a change that was made from '52 to '53, or is the machine in question missing something. This machine does have a belly pump.
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CNKS

06-06-2003 17:56:11




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 Re: Different styles of live hydraulics on Super M in reply to atw, 06-06-2003 10:08:06  
Stage 1 had a belly pump, stage 2 had live hydraulics. There were conversions available for both the M and Super M. Technically, the battery under the seat meant it had the reservoir under the gas tank. There was a specific serial number break. However, apparently there were a few that had a belly pump and the battery under the seat, during the "transition" period. The one you are looking at is probably a conversion to an M&W live pump using the belly pump as a reservoir.

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atw

06-06-2003 14:28:32




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 Re: Different styles of live hydraulics on Super M in reply to atw, 06-06-2003 10:08:06  
I forgot to mention that the tractor also has the battery under the seat. Maybe they changed the seat style as well. I'm not sure.
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Bob M

06-06-2003 12:08:21




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 Re: Different styles of live hydraulics on Super M in reply to atw, 06-06-2003 10:08:06  
Probably is a Stage I (non-live hydraulic) Super M and someone added a live pump to it. They used the belly reservoir as the reservoir for the live pump, and may have removed the belly pump itself.

Remove the dust cover the clutch housing ahead of transmission and peek up inside. The presence/absence of a drive coupling between the tranmission and the belly pump reservoir will quickly tell you how the hydraulics are setup.

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