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Paint my 1944 M RED???

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Brad

06-04-2004 15:39:15




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I'm close to painting. What is not supposed to be red? Headlites? pedals? Any thing else? Your help is appreciated. Thanks




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Paul in Mich

06-04-2004 20:37:03




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 Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Brad, 06-04-2004 15:39:15  
Brad, as mentioned , rims are silver of aluminum, the entire mag is masked off, but if you have a distributor, only the cap is masked. wires are masked. steering wheel is masked, but metal spokes are painted red. rear axles were left unpainted, but many restorers either paint them red or flat black. lugs and lug bolts are red, front wheel bearing cups are red. shifter knob is red. light housings are red , but early model add ons were black. radiator reservoirs are black, but core is unpainted.radiator hoses and clamps are red, carburetor is red, manifold is black for exhaust, red for intake. best to paint exhaust portion black first then mask before painting the rest red. fan is red. everything else is red. Since you have a 1944 model, you would go with early model decals. The early models had mccormick deering printed above the Farmall lettering on the hood. It was also sans IH logo. I suggest investing in Guy Fay and Andy Kraushaar's book titled "Farmall, letter series tractors". This book details proper decal location. When you purchase the decal kit, there are some that may not apply to your particular tractor. Good luck with your painting and finishing. If you have any questions on painting tips and technioques, I'm sure you can get lots of feedback right here. CNKS seems to be very knowlegable when it comes to painting tractors even tho he uses automotive quality paint rather than factoryIH paint.

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CNKS

06-05-2004 13:09:25




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 Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Paul in Mich, 06-04-2004 20:37:03  
I'm not sure there were ever any black lights, unless someone has actually documented it. Some of the early literature had pictures of prototypes, not production models, if I wasn't so lazy, I would look it up. I use automotive paint because I consider it better than Case-IH--but don't ask me to prove it. Also, I like to use all paint and primer, etc from the same manufacturer, then I never have to wonder if it is all compatible. Correct ratios are given in the spec sheets. Case-IH doesn't make their own paint anyway. I just bought a couple of "Case-IH" bearings for my Super A pto -- made in Japan, about $9 apiece. Also paid $15.11 for a pto seal I probably could have gotten for half that much at a bearing place a couple of miles up the road--stupid!

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CNKS

06-05-2004 13:17:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to CNKS, 06-05-2004 13:09:25  
Paul,in your post about the lights you said the addons were black, my brain missed the addon part, sorry about that. I think some of the early pictures showed a red and black grille, that's what I was referring to in the prototypes, thought maybe the lights were shown black too.



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Nothing 100% sure.

06-06-2004 05:24:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to CNKS, 06-05-2004 13:17:22  
Some of the reprints of magizine adds for A-H-M introduction show the 3 wide slats in grille of H and M painted white.



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Paul in Mich

06-06-2004 13:01:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Nothing 100% sure., 06-06-2004 05:24:51  
Actually, the bars were painted silver. This was on only a very few of the very first tractors. By the time they began reached the dealerships, IH eliminated the silver wide bars. I think I read somewhere that they were considered prototypes, and the few that were purchased direct from the factory before the dealerships got them. My Grandfather bought a 1939 A from the factory and it was on the first carload of A's shipped into the state of Michigan, and by that time the grills were all red. Boy, would I love to have that tractor today, I dont know what the serial number was, but I'm sure it was one under 1000.

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CNKS

06-06-2004 14:20:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Paul in Mich, 06-06-2004 13:01:42  
You're right about the silver. My dad bought the 1st B sold by the dealership in my home county, perhaps 1940. No starter, lights, or exhaust lift--also bought one shortly after WWII, exhaust lift, starter, lights; I remember my dad and I following my older brother home on it. Boy, was that a modern tractor! Unfortunately the bank reposessed both B's and an H in 1950 -- so going broke farming nothing new.

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Paul in Mich

06-06-2004 20:29:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paint my 1944 M RED?? in reply to CNKS, 06-06-2004 14:20:44  
CNKS, My grandfather's 1939 A had no ligthts or starter, and had no place on the torque tube for a starter. He did end up buying a set of headlights for it but no generator. Direct connection from battery to lights. The lights also, though purchased from the IH dealer were black rather than red. I am restoring a 1940 that is set up the same, but no lights. Another thing that the 39 and 40's had was a mechanical kill switch. You're right in that farmers going broke didn't just start yesterday. Its been going on a long time. While my Grandfather was somehow able to expand his farming operation during the depression, many other farmers lost their farms simply because they couldnt make a $500.00 per year mortgage payment. Grandpa did it by doing custom work. He bought a new Caterpillar RD-4 in 1936 along with a 5 bottom plow and a new IHC 12 ft field combine (the first in our county) They also milked, bottled, and delivered home grown milk. How He got financing to do this during the depression, I'll never know, but it did allow our family farm to prosper somewhat in extreemly hard times. Now for the kicker. My uncle managed to squander it all in the 80's and eventually had the farm forclosed. Goes to show ya that you cant be buying cottages at the lake and not paying the fertilizer and seed bill.

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rustyfarmall

06-04-2004 17:33:34




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 Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Brad, 06-04-2004 15:39:15  
The wheel rims should be silver, the steering wheel is black, but the spokes are red. The distributor cap and wires are supposed to be black, or at least unpainted, but quite a few of those get painted red along with the tractor.



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Jeff In Ontario

06-04-2004 16:12:17




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 Re: Paint my 1944 M RED??? in reply to Brad, 06-04-2004 15:39:15  
I'm just in the process of painting my '51 H, and as far as i know the only things not red are the rims and manifold (and distributer cap). I'm pretty sure that the pedals and headlights are supposed to be red . --Jeff



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