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Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH BOY!

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Brian in NY

12-28-2004 07:03:39




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I have researched this issue and am aware of the common pitfalls, etc....was this a disgruntled engineer's idea of a joke?

Well....looking for any tips to make the job of taking the front end off any easier. My shop manual illustrates it but real world experience comes in handy so I would appreciate any advice...and as many details as you have time for....thanks a bunch....happy holidays!




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Allan in NE

12-28-2004 07:26:19




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 Re: Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH B in reply to Brian in NY, 12-28-2004 07:03:39  
Brian,

There are 6 bolts holding the plate, 2 holding the support rods and then just pull that big swivel pin out of the steering knuckle instead of taking it loose at the steering mast.

It works better if you have someone to help you.

Take everything loose and leave those long support rods for last. Make sure your tractor is blocked up good and firm, then with each of you on either side of the tractor, use these long rods as "handles" to ease 'er down and roll it out from under the tractor coming forward.

Same way going back together, hook the support rods up first.

It looks like a nightmare; but really it isn't a bad job at all. Just somewhat foreboding. Betcha you can have ‘er outta there in 20 minutes :>)

Allan

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Brian in NY

12-28-2004 07:38:53




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 Re: Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH B in reply to Allan in NE, 12-28-2004 07:26:19  
Hey Allan,

Thanks for the reply...I plan on printing all the replies out to add to the three ring binder of "good info" from this site I have in the shop. It's a comforting feeling knowing you guys are here...let me tell ya. What would you recommend to use to block the tractor? I get real antsy working anything that is blocked...I keep having visions of a slipping block and it makes me nervous....I have had the rear ends blocked for tire changes, and one wheel at a time on the front...but this will be a new adventure for me...thanks again and happy holidays!

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Allan in NE

12-28-2004 08:10:02




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 Re: Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH B in reply to Brian in NY, 12-28-2004 07:38:53  
Hi Brian,

It is very easy for me to get reckless here and give you bad information, 'cause back in the days when we were running both wide and narrow rowed crops, I'd have to change out these front ends sometimes 7 or 8 times a summer swapping between the wide and single fronts.

It is second nature to me and those of use that grew up this way, so I can tell ya that OSHA definitely won't approve of my methods. Anyway, this is the way I do it: :>)

Have your tractor on a good level surface, like a cement garage floor. Lock both brakes and put the tractor in low or reverse.

Use short railroad ties or 6x6" blocks and a hydraulic barrel jack placed right behind that throw-out bearing grease hole in the underbelly, because you need to be able to raise and lower the tractor to the front end (both coming out and going back in).

Leave the weight of the tractor mostly on the front end until you get those 6 5/8" bolts outta there, then take the barrel pin outta the knuckle by removing the big cotter pin or ¼” bolt in the long drag link.

Loosen the bolts holding the support rods until they are just 'finger tight'. At this point, jack the tractor up until it looks as though it will clear the front end as you roll it forward.

Then, you and your helper can lift the support rods down off their remaining bolts, down and out. I do 'em by myself by using just one support rod as a handle, but one has to make sure that the supporting rod "lock nuts" are tight so that the cast trunnion cannot 'swivel' on ya.

Bad part is, once you get the tractor divorced from the front end and that steering knuckle unhooked, the tires and wheels are gonna go crazy on ya, if you don't come perfectly straight down, out forward. I would really suggest you get some help if this is the first time you've ever done this job.

AND BE CAREFUL! That H doesn't weight very much, but it can sure kill ya if it falls!

Allan

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Allan in NE

12-28-2004 08:35:00




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 Re: Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH B in reply to Allan in NE, 12-28-2004 08:10:02  
Brian,

Just so I'm clear here.

Just unbolt the "plate" from the tractor and leave the plate and the front end together as a unit. Don't take the front end off of the plate.

Make sense?

Allan



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captaink

12-28-2004 08:28:45




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 Re: Removing Radiator from H with Wide Front--OH B in reply to Allan in NE, 12-28-2004 08:10:02  
For swapping out the Schwartz front end for my M I took a piece of angle iron and drilled two holes in it for the tie rod ends to go into after they were removed from the steering arm. That way, at least when the wheels went “crazy” they turned the same direction not opposite of each other. That might help a bit. I also made a "stand" out of angle iron that bolted on each side of the clutch housing with a brace up to the engine frame rail and an angle iron across the bottom. To the bottom of each end of the angle iron I mounted two Bulldog jacks with wheels on them. The stand was made heavy enough to handle the weight of the M, and it allowed for adjusting not only the height but the tilt also. I used these for splitting the tractor too.

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