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Andrew Z

03-10-2005 06:35:34




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I got the timing cover off and now i have no clue how to get the old seal out. What end do I bang the old seal out. and what side should the new seal face? The flat side foward or back towards the timing gears? Thanks Andrew




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TDK

03-10-2005 18:04:49




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
As "JBlavl" said, seal definitely comes out from the engine side. Seal lip faces engine. Been there ,done that.



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El Toro

03-10-2005 13:28:52




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
Hi Andy, I misstated where you you install that
sleeve. If your damper shaft has a groove that's where the sleeve is installed. I always used
a socket that will catch the outer edge of the seal and drive it in with a hammer. Trying to drive it evenly so it doesn't get cocked to one side. Hal



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JBlavl

03-10-2005 09:30:45




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
Maybe I am not thinking of the same thing but last I checked the cover wasn't cast, and the O seal that slides over the crank is inserted into the cover from the inside (engine side) and is held there by a lip on the cover. Then the timing gear on the crank keeps it from working it's way back off when the cover is installed. Perhaps I am out to lunch here but I am trying to go from memory. If you remember how you took it off it should be self explanitory. No rocket sciene on this procedure.

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El Toro

03-10-2005 08:07:07




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
The lip of the new seal should face the engine.
Check the surface of the crankshaft where the old
seal made contact. The crankshaft may have a groove worn into the surface. If it does Chicago-Rawhide makes a sleeve kit to cover this area and includes a new seal. The old seal can be removed
as others have suggested with a screwdriver. The new seal is installed into the cover from the
outside. Try not to damage the cover. Hal

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captaink

03-10-2005 07:39:03




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
I can’t remember if there is a “lip” in the cover on the inside of the seal to prevent it from going in too far or not. Like Randy said, usually after cleaning the area it becomes apparent how it needs to come out. Usually the front cover seals on engines are driven in from the outside, driven out from the inside. Support the area on the cover around the seal to prevent breaking the cast iron cover. Install the seal per Randy’s post as the primary function of this seal is to keep oil in.

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Randy in NE

03-10-2005 07:31:06




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Andrew Z , 03-10-2005 06:35:34  
I am looking at the drawing from my parts CD. It shows the seal on the inside side of the picture. Just clean it off really good and you should be able to see which direction it has to go to remove it. Might try measuring the opening from both directions. The rubber seal will face the direction of the soure of the oil/pressure so it should face towards the engine. As far as getting to old one out you don't have to be real careful with the seal. Take a large screw driver and pry it out or take a large punch and drive it out. Just be careful of the cover!!!

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Andrew Z

03-11-2005 07:18:36




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 Re: Super C oil seal in reply to Randy in NE, 03-10-2005 07:31:06  
Thanks guys for the help!
Andrew



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