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'53 Super H: What am I getting in to?

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Aaron Sparling

12-13-1999 21:29:45




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I am newby when it comes to Farmalls, although I do have a '40 Minnie that is nearly restored. I have been asked to restore a family heirloom that was bought new by my great, great uncle (???). It has been sitting outside on the farm for as long as I can remember (at least 15 yrs) and from what I understand, it was rebuilt sometime in the mid 70s. Of course, the rims are shot, but everything else is in relatively good condition. Believe it or not, the tin is in great shape. When I go home from college for Christmas break, I'm gonna tincker with it and see if it is stuck first off. If I find it in either condition, does anyone have any recommendations? Do Farmalls have removable sleeves or are they like the old Minnies and tough out of luck? Of course, I'll have to redue all the wiring, but my tractor is a crank start, so I don't mind doing that (cranking). I guess what I am asking for are some tips, parts suppliers, and some things to look for before I get started. The last thing I want to do is to get the engine apart and find out that there is no hope. I know this tractor will not be sold to someone outside the family, so I guess I will be its only hope. I would appreciate any tips. Thanks.

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RCA

12-14-1999 10:16:06




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
I'm new to the Farmalls to but I've got some real good info from these guys and you'll have some fun with them to. check out some of the spreader material these guys dish out on the tales board :0) Good luck!!!



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The Red. hey Hey HEy HEY

12-14-1999 10:18:10




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 Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to RCA, 12-14-1999 10:16:06  
I resemble that ramark. :)



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RCA YOU MOST OF ALL!!!

12-14-1999 10:20:00




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 Re: Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to The Red. hey Hey HEy HEY, 12-14-1999 10:18:10  
:)



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The Red

12-14-1999 10:42:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to RCA YOU MOST OF ALL!!!, 12-14-1999 10:20:00  
My grandpa taught me well since I pulled the manure spreader behind the H when I was a kid and a teen. And invariably the track would break and I got to pitch fork the whole load into the field.



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RCA

12-14-1999 10:45:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to The Red, 12-14-1999 10:42:23  
I guess when you start pitchin **it at an early age you get good at it



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Aaron Sparling

12-14-1999 07:43:09




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help. You all have given some great ideas and it always helps when you know what you're talking about. I knew getting into this, that it will take some money to get it fixed. I've already put near $2000 into my '40 Minnie ZTU (some college kids will drink that much away in a year, mine goes to a tractor of all things LOL), but it was an original that my grandfather bought new, sold, and then I was with him when he bought it back. We began the restoration then he was killed in a farm accident (96), so I'm finishing it up. As of right now, it needs paint and a new set of rear tires and she's done. I know how much this Super H means to my uncle, so I'd imagine I'll make sure its gonna get done no matter what. I know I have "sinned" by saying "Minnie" on here *laugh*, but if you want to take a look at my tractor, I do have a few pictures of it on my web page. Once again, thanks to all and yes I will keep you all posted on what I find.

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The Red

12-14-1999 07:52:08




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 Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-14-1999 07:43:09  
Aaron if you get tired of that barn, I'll be happy to take it off our hands. :)

Nice looking Minnie. Super H will make you bi-tractoral also.



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Tractor Tim

12-14-1999 07:30:52




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Aaron, You've got a great opprotunity many wish they had, restoring a tractor with a family history. I wish I could find my Grandpa's old H, but it was autioned off in the mid seventies. The Super H is a great tractor. You can get nearly all parts from the dealership, including manuals (a must). It sounds like you know enough about engines and such, with the help of the fellas on this sight, you'll have no problem. Like the other posts said, take your time, it may cost a little cash along the way, but it sounds like the price of the tractor is right (free?). I did my first H this past summer and with the help of guys like "The Red", "Farmer Bob" and many others, things worked out great. Take a look at "The Red's" web page, great inspiration. Good Luck! T-Tim.

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The Red

12-14-1999 07:53:21




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 Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Tractor Tim, 12-14-1999 07:30:52  
Garsh TT. Now I can't get my swollen head through my combine door. :)



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Farmer Bob

12-14-1999 19:52:59




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 Re: Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to The Red, 12-14-1999 07:53:21  
Ditto what "The Red" said, but just being here to help is thanks enough. Always glad to help when I get a chance. Problem is being out here on the left coast and few are up and at 'em when I can get on here. I guess better late than never should suffice. FB



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john d

12-14-1999 06:26:05




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
You're getting into an adventure! It probably won't be cheap, but you probably will enjoy it!

The H is one of the most durable and user-friendly tractors to operate or work on that was ever built. Parts are available, and (at least on this site) advice is free!

As mentioned in other posts below, cover it (at least the exhaust) and don't get in a hurry. FORCING a stuck engine to turn will result in more time and $$$ spent in the end. As RED said below, if you pull it to turn the engine, be very gentle. My own recommendation would be to remove the plugs, squirt some penetrant into the cylinders, then WAIT a few days. You can jack up one rear wheel, put the tractor in 5th gear and rock that free wheel forward and back to see if the engine will move. Good luck, and let us know how it all works out!

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The Red

12-14-1999 07:00:43




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 Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to john d, 12-14-1999 06:26:05  
John, you have the better idea. Sure hate to see a rod thrown. That would make it a Cha-Ching tractor real quick.



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Jon with an H

12-14-1999 05:57:22




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Has the exaust been covered? That would be good if it was. The first thing I would do is to put a couple of ounces of Marvel Mystery oil in each cylinder and check for water, or at least oil in the block, get rid of the one or add to the other, then try and roll it over. You have come to the right place, I hope you go for it.

Jon with an H



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Corky

12-14-1999 05:30:12




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Aaron first thing to do is get a set of manuals operarors,service and maby a parts book.These will save you countless problems.As far as the cylinder sleeves they are replaceable.I cant think of any major or for that matter minor part that isn't rebuildable on an H.Good luck and keep us posted of your progress.If you need help with answers there are many folks on here that can help with all your questions.

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The Red Again

12-14-1999 01:04:24




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Aaron in the left menu under reasearch, select article archives, then restoration, then 1951 Farmall H. That will give you an idea what to expect.

Below is my site with 9 pages of about 5 pictures per page on the same 51 H. A few other folks on this site also have excellent pictures and commentary on rebuilding Hs.

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The Red

12-14-1999 00:32:59




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 Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to Aaron Sparling, 12-13-1999 21:29:45  
Aaron for starters, get the H into a shed or at least cover it with a 20 x 20 foot tarp. It is probably restorable, especially since it had a rebuild in the mid 70s. More than likely it is stuck though depending on how well the exhaust was covered.

If you are wanting to find out if it is stuck before you start investing funds, pull it SLOWLY with the transmission in 5th. and let out the clutch slowly. If the main wheels drag, you know it is stuck. If that is the case, I would pour Marvel Mystery Oil into each cylinder and let her sit for at least 2 weeks.

You will get all sorts of tips for unsticking.

I used YT's classifieds and had no problems getting parts for my 51H. For used parts, Gary Biewer is a very good source and reasonable. 218-937-5627. You can still get a lot of parts from your local IH dealer or call IH Ken Updike 608-455-2411.

You will get a lot of tips on this site. Several of us have rebuilt Hs or Super Hs over the last year or two. Let the wallet draining begin!

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Dennis Frisk

10-03-2000 09:25:36




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 Re: Re: '53 Super H: What am I getting in to? in reply to The Red, 12-14-1999 00:32:59  
Restoring H's & Super H's, IHC built 397,000 approx. H's and there were just 19,266 Early Super H's built, Parts for H's are Much more available. I've got a Late '54 Super H, Ser. #22357, and it's even rarer, one of only 8000+. With the disc brakes, faster gear speeds, and numerous other little changes, there are fewer interchangable parts than one would expect. Even the Carb & manifolds are different, as are sleeves , Pistons, & rings, heads, etc. The "Common Stuff" You should be O-K on, but be careful about engine & transmission parts. Definely Get a Parts book.

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