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Bryan Bell

02-15-2006 15:41:35




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I need to go slower, Is there a creeper gear available? Need to go slower than 1st gear will go. Any advise?




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Bill in NC

02-15-2006 20:25:06




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 Re: Farmall 140 in reply to Bryan Bell, 02-15-2006 15:41:35  
How about modifying the throttle to idle slower? This is assuming your creeping along does not involve dragging an implement or pulling a plow. Last month's Red Power had an article about the Mennonites having gas Farmalls that ran at extremely slow rpms while still doing work. Really slow rpm may require electronic ignition for optimum spark and adjusting the carburator for optimal slow speed jetting. Back in the 1960's I worked for a farmer who had a Farmall 100 that creeped along really slowly with a very slow idle rpm - just bump lugging along out in the tobacco field pulling a tobacco cart as we boys walked alongside primeing tobacco (pulling off ripes leaves for all you non-tobacco area farm boys).

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Hugh MacKay

02-16-2006 02:37:54




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 Re: Farmall 140 in reply to Bill in NC, 02-15-2006 20:25:06  
Bill: You sure would need something different for ignition. I tried this once with my Super A. We were droping seed potatoes down a tube in front of a set of hiller hoes. Had to drive real slow to get spacing right. In 4 hours the tractor stopped dead and wouldn't start. Had to put in new points, condensor cap and rotor. In another 4-5 hours it did it again.

Now if one weighed the labor costs against parts it was worth it, however I suspect the engine was not very well lubricated while doing this. My SA has always carried good oil presure and still does, but it didn't while running at extreemly low idle. I never tried that again.

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Hugh MacKay

02-15-2006 17:55:49




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 Re: Farmall 140 in reply to Bryan Bell, 02-15-2006 15:41:35  
Bryan: The Hydra Creeper gear slows the tractor more than one might want or expect. 1st is .27 mph, 2nd is .42 mph, 3rd is .55 mph and 4th is 1.10 mph. Further to this it is hydraulic motor so your loaded speed is even less. This attachment was designed for transplanting.

If you and Scott wish to send me e mails, I can send you a photo of an attachment that bolts on above pto where belt pulley mounts. I don't know anything about this attachment, never ever saw it in IH literature and I go back a long way with these little tractors. Mid 1950s. The guy that sent it to me claimed it was a gear drive hi-lo range for these tractors. I had always intended to ask Jim Becker if he ever heard of such an attachment. All I can tell you, is I have the photo but can't understand how it could work. Looking at this I could understand it being a speed reduction or increase for pto. I am curious about this one as well.

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Jim Becker

02-16-2006 08:57:24




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 Re: Farmall 140 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-15-2006 17:55:49  
As far as I know, the Hydra-creeper was the only speed reducer IH made for the Super A-140 models.

Other companies did things as needed for their attachments. Auburn had one for their trencher. I believe it went in front of the regular transmission and had its own PTO shaft (since the regular PTO would be speed reduced as well).

I know of a unit used when a grape picker was mounted on a 140. I don't know who made it and never got a chance to look at one.

Hugh, I would like to see your picture too.

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nc140man

02-15-2006 16:08:59




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 Re: Farmall 140 in reply to Bryan Bell, 02-15-2006 15:41:35  
I know what You mean! When I bushhog it goes to fast! Even in first! I've old manuals with pictures of an attachment called a hydra creeper that works off the hydraulics and powers the wheels through the pto. 'Course that ruins any chance of using any pto powered implement! Scott



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