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Found another 966

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BigMarv1085

11-04-2006 16:14:26




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Found another 966 today. It has dual remotes, dual wheels (with 3 new rear tires), cab with air /heat, front end loader and a set of front weights for $4000. Only problem is the torque amplifier is out. Called 2 different people that work on them and they said probably $5000 to fix it. They also said that you are lucky to get 2500 hrs. on a torque amplifier.




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wayne from wi

11-07-2006 04:50:05




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to BigMarv1085, 11-04-2006 16:14:26  

I have a 966 with an M&W turbo on it. Runs about 130 HP.It currently has over 12,000 hours on it. Original TA. Keep the HYTRAN changed, the TA, clutch and TA pressure in adjustment. Main thing for long life is to NOT use the TA to slow down by pulling the lever back. Also a comment about the duals. I have clamp on duals that I quit useing because I would break the wheel clamp bolts. Maybe because of the turbo it has more power than the clamp bolts can handle with the duals. If this tractor you are asking about has the wedgelock style axle clamps, you should be ok with clamp on style duals.

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Jim Allen

11-06-2006 05:51:20




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to BigMarv1085, 11-04-2006 16:14:26  
Last year, I was wondering about my TA, which had "skipped-a-
beat" quite a few times out in the field. After following the Vet's instros on adjusting up the linkages, it worked all this season without a single hiccup.

Anyway, my point is that I went around to three dealers here to get priceson replacing the TA. I know my heart's good now because I didn't drop dead on the spot. They wanted more than I paid for the tractor! My many years of experience in the auto repair world leads me to some posible conclusion.

A) Some really don't want to work on old "POS" tractors, so they jack the price up to discourage you away.

B) They make it worth their trouble if you're willing at the price.

C) Most of the old timers that really know the old stuff are gone, so the newer guys really have to sweat the knowledge and "tricks" gap, so again, they jack the price up. Case in point: I heard about a local Case/IH dealer that will no longer work on D-358s. Why? One of thier "young buck" techs, with no experience on those engines, made an elemental mistake and the shop had to eat an engine. Expensive lesson, I guess, but retty silly to exclude an engine base on your ignorance Having been both a dealer and a independent shop tech in my life, I know that dealer work is easier. Relatively new, clean things under warranty that usually have clearcut problems are easier that old, dirty, worn things than can have lots of hidden problems

D) Shop rates are a lot higher than they used to be.

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GordoSD

11-06-2006 05:43:50




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to BigMarv1085, 11-04-2006 16:14:26  
I have a black stripe 966 with DuAl loader. T/A is good. I rarely use it. If I could I would gladly have paid 4-5000 dollars less for the tractor without a working TA.

GW



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the tractor vet

11-04-2006 17:38:31




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to BigMarv1085, 11-04-2006 16:14:26  
TALK ABOUT A RIP OFF lets see here all parts including new clutch PPA and bearings and NEW PTO input new hyd pump and labor you pull the loader about 3000 grand and as far as the T?A lasting only 2500 hours that is plain BULL SHUT . The tractors that i have installed T/A's on there are some that have been out there working everyday for the last twenty years with the same T/A that i installed . If the tractor did not have a cab and air then the job would be around 2600 unless we found something that we did not plan on in the transmission as you are there and that is the time to do the fixen and there is no labor involved as all the gears and main shafts are out . Even with the vary best T?A and clutch it would be hard to hit the 5000 dollar mark on that job . IT takes about 27to 30 hours of labor if ya want to call it that to do that job as i realy liked doing T/A's if ya got the equipment to do it and i did even made up a stand that i mounted the center section to so i could flip it and work at a comfortable hight and move it around . A good set of spliting stands a cherry picker and some jack stands will get most jobs done as for the cab tractors well we had a 580 Ck that we made up a Boom pole for the job of lifting cabs off of tractors and the only down side to it was that it took two people and ususaly took around and hour or so to unbolt and remove . A littel longer going back on with out doing any damage .

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BigMarv1085

11-04-2006 17:58:43




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to the tractor vet, 11-04-2006 17:38:31  
Tractor vet I appreciate your post. I'm not familiar with the T/A and knew I would get some good information. I really don't need this tractor but neighbor is interested in it. If buys it, I'm sure that I will be helping him work on it. Do you have a ball park idea on how much the parts will be and what all will have to be bought.



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the tractor vet

11-04-2006 18:46:10




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 Re: Found another 966 in reply to BigMarv1085, 11-04-2006 17:58:43  
Well now i don't know how much the parts have gone up as i have not bought them for a few years but i am sure that the reman's can't be that high . As what all ya need here is what i would order , New clutch and pressure plate throwout bearing and pilot bearing , reman HD T/a Assambly new PTO input drive gear and bearing . T/A gskt and seal kit a MCV spring kit and seal and gsket package . New MCV hyd. pump as i am not there to run a test on the old one . Now that should be all that is needed , but here again when ya open them up ya never know just what you will find and ya go from there as if it has a gear that is not so good well now is the time . Now the big thing about doing this job is KNOWING JUST HOW TO DO IT AS THIS CAN MAKE THE DIFFERANCE on just how long they will last . Like checking the T/A clearance on the end of the input and knowing just how to shim it then also how to shim the countor shaft after shimming . How to rebuild the MCV and do the testing and have the stuff to do the testing . As for any special tools well yea there are but you can get by with a good set of standard tools . One thing that is realy needed is a 3/8ths EYE BOLT for lifting the T/A assambly in and out when doing the shimming of the GUILL and make up offset heavy washer for bringing the guill out with the t/a and also installing it all in one unit as this is one of them things that ya learn over the years of doing one . Whenya try and put the T/A in to the guill you can mess up and have it comeapart on ya or not get all the disc's onto the splines all the way and end up doing damage while tryen to pull it in with the bolts . If things are wright they more or less just fall together . Making up a couple long line up studs also helps going together . Just a bunch of trick of the trade.

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