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Need To Know

08-28-2007 03:00:16




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I have a super c that runs like a clock.After it is warmed up and she is working I noticed that there is some smoke blowing out the oil fill cap.What does this mean?Thanks




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Owen Aaland

08-28-2007 07:50:38




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 Re: super c smoke in reply to Need To Know, 08-28-2007 03:00:16  
It all depends on what "some smoke" means. All engines have some blowby. These engines do not have any provision to return any of the blowby to the intake so you see all of it come right out the top where you can get a good look at it. As long as it runs fine and is not so bad that it is blowing oil out, it should be fine just as it is.



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georgeky

08-28-2007 05:20:28




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 Re: super c smoke in reply to Need To Know, 08-28-2007 03:00:16  
Yep, needs new rings.



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leon

08-28-2007 03:50:07




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 Re: super c smoke in reply to Need To Know, 08-28-2007 03:00:16  
Probably means that the rings are worn. Mine has blow by too, even though the compression tests 125 psi on all four cylinders. It's particularly noticeable in cooler weather with the hood off when one can really see the crankcase vent/oil filler pipe.



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A. Bohemian

08-28-2007 08:42:22




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 Been There, Done That in reply to leon, 08-28-2007 03:50:07  
We operated our Super C for many, many years with it blowing oil smoke past the rings.

We used all the typical tricks to keep it running, and kept a sharp eye on the oil pressure guage. As long is it didn't drop to almost zero, and bounced back up as soon as you advanced the throttle (and it always did), we didn't worry about it.

Finally came the day when nothing I could do would make the tractor pull a load. It started on the first pull of the crank, idled great, responded well to the engine speed control, did not not miss when not under load, still had reasonable if poor oil pressure, never overheated, etc.

But it wouldn't do any but the lightest work.

So I did a compression check. I didn't like the readings and I had sleeves and pistons put in and a valve job done.

The tractor runs great now. But here's the moral: on the cylinder which finially gave out, combustion products rushing through the gap in the cracked ring burned THROUGH the sleeve. I mean right through it.

Had I continued to run the tractor much longer without new pistons and sleeves, I might well have damaged the block.

So, even though you can make the tractor run and run well WITHOUT fixing the rings, don't wait TOO long...

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teddy52food

08-28-2007 10:06:59




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 Re: Been There, Done That in reply to A. Bohemian, 08-28-2007 08:42:22  
You are just kidding not? The C has wet sleeves and if it burned through the sleeve ,the coolant would have run into the oil.



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georgeky

08-28-2007 10:09:27




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 Re: Been There, Done That in reply to teddy52food, 08-28-2007 10:06:59  
Glad I wasn't the only one wondering about that.



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