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Bama Binder

07-17-2000 10:07:44




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What was the first true 100 HP International Diesel? If one were in the market for such a tractor, which model would you suggest. My father wants to upgrade and he now uses a (er ahh ummm) Ford 5000.

I'm trying to turn him from blue to red which shouldn't be too hard, but I need to know what to look for...thanks in advance....Binder




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Jon

07-20-2000 15:19:28




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 Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Bama Binder, 07-17-2000 10:07:44  
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We run an 856 and it's a great tractor. There are many out there, and I'm one of them, who consider it to be one of the greatest IH tractor built.



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Medfarm

07-17-2000 21:28:05




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 Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Bama Binder, 07-17-2000 10:07:44  
If you or your father needs 100 HP, look for a 856. The tractor was extremely reliable but is about 30 years old now. If you want a newer model, look for a 86 series. In certain areas, these tractors are reasonably priced. These tractors are about 22 to 25 years old. I always believed that the 856 made John Deere develop a better tractor than the old reliable 4020. I am color blind as far as tractors manufacturers are concerned.

Ray

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Harold H

07-17-2000 18:38:38




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 Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Bama Binder, 07-17-2000 10:07:44  
The Farmall 1206 was the first IHC 100+ pto hp tractor. It tested 112.64 pto hp and 99.64 db hp in Nebraska test number 910.

The Farmall 806 was close with 94.93 pto hp and 86.66 db hp in Nebraska test number 857.

Harold H



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John D. Lewis

07-17-2000 10:54:36




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 Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Bama Binder, 07-17-2000 10:07:44  
Greetings,

I'm not too sure, but I think the first 100 horsepower tractor made by IH would be the Farmall 1206. They're nice tractors, but they're a little older.

Here is a brief overview...

Farmall 666
don't know too much, 65 horsepower, 312 cubic inch engine (I think), 10 speeds forward, 2 speeds reverse

Farmall Hydro 70
same as Farmall 666, except hydrostatic drive

Farmall 766
slightly smaller engine than the Farmall 966, approximately 80 horsepower, same transmission speeds

Farmall 966
diesel 414 cubic inch engine ("D-414"), 6 cylinder, 105 horsepower, 16 speeds forward, 8 speeds reverse, variable speed with low/high range, optional torque amplifier, hydraulic DynaLife clutch, hydraulic brakes, optional 540/1000 RPM power take-off, optional single/dual remotes, Category II three-point hitch, optional differential lock

Farmall Hydro 100
equivalent to the 966, except it has a hydrostatic drive

Farmall 1066
identical to the 966, with the exception of a "DT-414" engine (turbo), optional Category III three-point hitch

Farmall 1466
identical to the 966 and 1066, with the exception of a larger engine, "DT-436", 130 horsepower, Category III three-point hitch is standard,

Farmall 1566
identical to the 1466, with the exception of a different gear drive which offers 12 speeds forward, 6 speeds reverse, intended for more horsepower out in the field

Now, the '86 series tractors are virtually identical, except that the cab was moved 18 inches forward, and some minor changes were made in the '86 series that didn't exist in the '66 series. Most have the same engine, almost the exact same everything.

Farmall 886 is equivalent to the Farmall 766,
Farmall 986 is equivalent to the Farmall 966,
Farmall 1086 is equivalent to the Farmall 1086,
Farmall 1486 is equivalent to the Farmall 1486,
Farmall 1586 is equivalent to the Farmall 1586,

Farmall 686
65 horspower, 312 cubic inch engine, 6 cylinder, almost the same as the Farmall 666, slightly different design, slightly larger engine

Farmall 786
watered down version of the Farmall 886, less features than the Farmall 886

If you want my personal opinion, my father and I own a Farmall 966 and Farmall 1468. We recently sold a Farmall 686 and we're beginning to regret that move. I like the Farmall 966 because you don't have the turbocharged engine, and that's less to worry about. The '66 series tractors are excellent machines, and I prefer those over the '86 series.

I hope that helps a little... hopefully that answers some of your questions - I think I got all of that information right. ;-)

Regards,

John D. Lewis
jdlewis@electrosity.com

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Mudcat49

07-17-2000 20:18:25




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 Re: Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to John D. Lewis, 07-17-2000 10:54:36  
John you forgot one of the great ones, the 856. The 686 also came with the German D-310 which cranked out about 70 HP. The 826 had the German D-358 and was another one approching 100 HP. About your 656, I know how you feel, I let two get away from me, one diesel and one gas, I miss them all the time! Doesn't that DV-550 in your 1468 sound grand? I used to love hear the one I had running!



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John D. Lewis

07-17-2000 21:57:46




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 Re: Re: Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Mudcat49, 07-17-2000 20:18:25  
Hey everyone - and especially Mudcat49! ;-)

I love the 1468, I love the 1468, I love the 1468. Haha, okay, enough of that for now.

I guess I did forget about some good oldies, didn't I. I'll have to admit that I'm not completely IH oriented yet, part of that is due to my age... I'm eighteen now and still wet behind the ears when it comes to IH. I must have been five or six years old when IH died and CaseIH was born. That was a sad thing. :-(

I love my Farmalls though and keep searching for more. I finally talked my father into the 1468, and he often complains how parts are rare, etc. Well, that never stopped me from searching for things, and I'm usually successful if I try hard enough.

I guess I've forgotten about some other ones, as they have come and gone before my time and I never got totally acquainted with them. I'm used to the '66 and '86 series, probably because they're so common!

I've seen a few here and there and like to visit the used IH tractor lot. The folks that run the place know me and are pretty kind to me. They let me get acquainted with the tractors and give them each a test drive - what a treat!

I do remember driving a Farmall 826 around the lot a few times a long while back, and I fell in love it. It reminded me a lot of our old Farmall 544, except with a different transmission. I distinctly remember that the gears would grind a little, but it ran well. I might add that the Farmall 1026 looks like a lot of fun too, I assume it's virtually the same thing, just a bigger horse.

My father used to have all sorts of Farmalls and has sold/traded them for bigger and better engines.

We traded up from a Farmall 544 for a Farmall 966, and later sold a Farmall 686 and bought a Farmall 1468.

In a way I miss the Farmall 544, and in a way, I don't. It was a narrow front end tractor, diesel, and it had some problems. I remember that it had compression problems and it didn't easily start unless we had warm weather. I know my dad would curse at it in the winter. He used to plug in the block heater and feed it ether. We eventually got sick of that and usually ended up parking it on a hillside so we could coasted it in fifth gear to start it. That was a riot!

To be quite honest, it was more or less a safety hazard and a liability. I would like to find a diesel with low hours and a wide front end instead. I'll find one in good shape that I like, I suppose.

The big kicker, our Farmall 686 left here looking absolutely mint with 3,400 hours. It ran like a champ. I learned to drive on that tractor and spent a lot of time cutting hay, raking, baling, planting, discing, picking corn, etc. I am really going to miss that tractor. It is the perfect little engine for any small farmer or anyone who wants a good decent sized tractor - especially to brush hog with. I'm going to miss that one.

My next project is to restore the family's Farmall H which was bought new in 1951. It was worked like a dog and has seen better days. It's been rolled over a few times, wrecked, smashed, and everything else. I think the engine has been overhauled three times and it's ready for a fourth time. We keep fixing it and using it. I'm finally going to fix it up properly and retire it. It deserves a place in the barn next to the Farmall 1468.

What I would really like to find is a Farmall Super M-TA Diesel. My grandfather had one and he died not long after I was born - it was his favorite tractor. I found pictures of him driving it around the farm - which from what I've learned, was something he liked to do on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon. It was later sold when my father needed a bigger horse at the time, and that's how the Farmall 686 came to be ours.

I became upset when I learned that only 2,705 were made, which makes them tough to find now. I hope I can find out who bought his and see if I can track it down and possibly buy it back. I've never seen a small Farmall diesel like that, and I'm very inclined to go to some of these tractor shows to see if I can find one.

Oh well, that's a bit of history here...

On the lighter side of things, the 1468 has been nothing but FUN, FUN, FUN! Talk about horsepower! The man we bought this from said he measured 160 horspower on ours, which it was originally rated for 145 horsepower. I'm impressed! I just love the sound of the tractor idling at about 700 R.P.M. on four cylinders, and when you stick it under a load, all eight run.

Pictures coming soon.

Regards,

John D. Lewis
jdlewis@electrosity.com

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C.V. Fish

08-08-2000 03:14:58




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ltf in nc

07-17-2000 10:38:54




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 Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to Bama Binder, 07-17-2000 10:07:44  
I do not know what was the first 100 HP IH. I have operated a F 5000 and I own a 986 IH that is the 100 HP range. It would be unfair to compare the two. I have an IH that is in the range of the F 5000 and in comparing those two the IH is a superior machine. In the 100 HP range, the 986 w/ cab and air is a nice machine. It does my tasks to my satisfaction. One fault I have with the machine is that when changing gears, the gears will scrape. Another fault is only minor but I find that the access steps to the cab are too small for my big feet and that is a bit awkward. The 986 tractor starts good and has plenty of power and good traction. The view to the rear hitch enables hook up without having everyone in the family present to assist. The power steering and the hydraulics function adequately and the brakes are terrific. I like the park gear as it avoids leaving the handbrake engaged when your thoughs are elsewhere. I perceive that I have good value for the investment in the machine and I do not regret making the purchase. I think your father would be pleased with a 986.

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John D. Lewis

07-17-2000 10:58:44




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 Re: Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to ltf in nc, 07-17-2000 10:38:54  
Hello,

I agree, the Farmall 986 is a great machine. You can't go wrong with any International Harvester equipment. ;-)

Regards,

John D. Lewis
jdlewis@electrosity.com



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Bama Binder

07-17-2000 12:33:17




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 Re: Re: Re: 100 HP Internationals in reply to John D. Lewis, 07-17-2000 10:58:44  
Thanks a bunch for the info...this is a great help and certainly gets me pointed in the right direction...Steve



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