Trailer for tractor

Thanks!

BTD

From this you should be able to tell what you need!

T_Bone

Gross weight for the trailer is one thing, getting it stopped is another. If it doesn't have electric or air brakes on at least one axle (preferably more), don't even think about trying it.

If I remember correctly, a Cat III hitch can take 500 pounds tongue weight and 5000 pounds gross and if you put 10% on the tongue as you should, you are at 5000 pounds gross. That puts you over your weight limit when you consider 1500-2000 pounds for the trailer plus 4000-5000 for a loaded M.

So it seems to me that your limits are in your hitch. If you have the brakes on the trailer, it seems that the trailer would be OK, even at 6'11", assuming it is at least 7000 pounds gross.

Put at least a Cat IV hitch on it and a brake controller for the electric brakes and you should be OK....Good luck and be safe...BB

BTD

Just remember, I can punch it and go faster, but while you are behind me, you are also saving fuel. I don't have to be a hero and be the fastest dude on the road. I chose my truck so I wouldn't have to spend so much time at fuel stops. What are you going to do with all the time you save by not following me?

There are 7 Cubs in my fleet...2 restored, 2 working, and 3 in the process of restoration.

You misunderstood...my 1999 Dodge has a small V-8, a 318. It will pull a loaded trailer at maximum legal highway speeds. It is a nice truck, and replaces a miserable Ford F-250. I imagine you will pass me...I will be driving legally within the speed limit, like many of the mini-van drivers who some think they out-rank. Many seem to forget the speed limits are supposed to be the MAXIMUM allowed. The dangerous speed differences are caused mostly by the hot-shots who are speeding and because of their speed, will make any accident more severe.

22 mpg to start, 21 mpg with 158,000.

All my tractors have traveled on a 16 ft flatbed with 2-5/16 ball, trailer house axles with no brakes. Flatbed so tires can hang over both sides.

Used to pull everything with a 350 Chevy, including a 300 Farmall from Houston to Tulsa. the Cummins is much better, and fuel economy seems relatively independent of load.

Farm hauling you travel at the speed which is safe for the load, whether it's hay, cattle, or implements. An M on a good trailer is really not that much of a load. They ride better than 5,000 lbs of hay or 5,000 lbs of cattle.

Most people seem to be very tolerant of a vehicle moving slow for an obvious reason. Fast speeds with a loaded trailer are never safe.

Just my 2 cents.

I'm in Washington State and thank GOD someone had since not to allow this hook-up there. When I called Oregon they said sure NP, but latter a State Police officer got me straight on this and told me it was allowed on commerical trucks only and let me go without a ticket as long as I busted the rig down to the PW and TT and drive the car. I was 15 miles from the Idaho boader. As soon as I entered Idaho I once again hooked up my train!!

I have a 76 Dodge PW 3/4 ton SWR, 25ft travel trailer with two brake axles, and a 79 volkswagon deisel with no brakes in the trailing mode and the wife really doesn't want to drive to Arizona. So I hook the TT on next, then the VW on the trailer. I'm on the Oregon Interstate when I hooked everything up after pulling Wa like I was supposed too. I now have my 22ft long PW, then the 25ft TT and finally the 16ft VW (toung included) all in the train, thats right folks 63ft of train. I start out and slowly increased my speed to 30mph. At 30mph I drove for about 60 miles until I could get used to the VW pushing the TT around, then increased my speed too 40mph and what a difference. The push was a little more but I could keep it between the white lines in my lane, I pulled 40mph for about another 200 miles. By that time I had figured out why I was getting pushed by the VW. The rutts in the hiway! The VW was narrow than the PW tread width and the TT tread width and that caused the VW to jump out of the rutts jerking the TT thus dragging the PW with it.

OK I now have everything figured out. I increase my speed to 45mph and still getting pushed all over the Interstate but still holding the white lines. I had to slow too 35mph when going thru Boise,ID as traffic was really heavy. After Boise I got really brave and went to 50mph only when I looked in the mirrors and no traffic was comning. Thank GOD it was two lanes with another two lanes counting the shoulders as it took me all four lanes just to slow back down to 20mph too regain control of my train. I pulled another 700 miles at 40mph as I could keep the train some what straight and didn't look like I was drunk!

Even tho this combination was leagle in AZ, NV and ID, I would never do such a foolish thing again!! I even went as far too call the AZ State Police when I arrived home and told them the results of my train ride hoping someone would change the law back to two vehicles, but it hasn't done any good!

T_Bone

You were very lucky you weren't arrested for driving under the speed limit. You should be ashamed of yourself for holding the hot-shots up! They have a lot of experience driving 18 wheelers and obviously think it is THEIR road. My rig that goes to shows is only 56' long, and runs in the right lane legally, but I make no apology for using what I think is my road too...after all, I've been paying the taxes that built the interstate system since long before Eisenhour first proposed building it.

George is stating His opinion and in a very nice way and I did not take it as a call down on truckers in general.

What you don't realize is your ISP is posted so you don't have to give your real name to be kick-off this website and I sure hope that happens as we don't need your kind here!!!!!

T_Bone

You should get someone who reads well to edit your messages. The last one came across as a threat. Threats are entirely inappropriate in this forum.

When you reread the message you responded to I think you will agree it was both good natured and neutral toward truckers in general.

If you think that saying truck drivers "think they own the road" is offensive, you should reread your message, where you essentially admitted that you think you own the road by trying to demonstrate you own public property because you pay taxes for the use of that property.

Talk to your congressman and find out if your taxes pay your fair share of highway construction and maintenance. You'd be in trouble if highway construction and maintenance had to all come from taxes on its use. Come through Oklahoma and enjoy tolls that pay only for the interstates. Even at that the truckers get a break when considering who tears up the highways.

Yes, I'll admit to voluntarily limiting my night driving, since there are so many morons using the intense halogen lights without considering their effect on oncoming traffic.

Your comments give intelligent truck drivers a bad name.

Or about towing my 10 ft wide bale wagon from Nebraska to Oklahoma. Of course I pull over to let traffic pass when I can. You don't see truckers do that much anymore. But I sure feel the need to stay out of their way when I'm in a small vehicle and they are trying to make a run at a hill to avoid slowing too much before the top. It gripes me when a car passes a truck on a hill then keeps him from making up time on the other side.

Certainly we all subsidize trucking. Highways would last much longer if vehicle weight was limited to 20,000 lbs. But we subsidize air, rail, and barge traffic too, it's all part of government encouraging commerce.

Let's not get too serious about owning the public domain, this board included.

I ask you to do this for your safety as well as other drivers on the road. If you don't one day we will no longer enjoy your words of wisdom on tractors!

T_Bone

Dennis,

This thread is getting rather long, and I'm sure we would both enjoy it more if we could continue it at the beer tent. We might even become good friends.

The thing I have most trouble with is the idea that it is somehow better citizenship to exceed speed limits (by however small an amount) than to obey laws that are there for everyone's benefit. If you exceed the limit, you are breaking the law...if you are running at or below the limit...you should not be an outcast. Its this foolishness and fuzzy logic that caused the silly seatbelt laws. I am required to wear a belt because many people choose to drive in an unsafe manner. I will not cause a disastrous accident, but they may!

Kinda reminds me of the recent unpleasantness where lying under oath should be O K because some of us think everyone does it.

The equalizer hitch makes it possible to use the same trailer behind the motorhome to go to shows...another thing to consider.