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Bergen

11-17-2000 06:22:01




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On a three brush generator,which brush is the third? If I move this brush closer to the armature(?) will the generator charge more? I need more charge because it won't charge an 8 volt battery. Usually, the amp gauge doesn't reach 10 amps with the tractor running wide open.




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Kendall

11-17-2000 07:49:34




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 Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bergen, 11-17-2000 06:22:01  
The 3rd brush is the one near the top side of the generator. It is closer to one brush, which has another opposite it. The charging rate is increased by moving the 3rd brush in the direction of commutator rotation but never should be closer than the width of 3.2 commutator bars. Your 8V charging problem is more likley to be that you still have a 6 volt regulator. Before messing with the brushes, make sure you have an 8 volt regulator.

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Bergen

11-17-2000 08:32:25




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 Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Kendall, 11-17-2000 07:49:34  
Thanks for the pointers Kendall. Is there any way to rig the 6 volt regulator to make it an 8?



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Bob M

11-17-2000 09:37:33




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 Re: Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bergen, 11-17-2000 08:32:25  
Hey Bergen - Presuming your tractor has a true voltage regulator (not just a cutout relay) you can bump the voltage setting up as follows:

1 - Remove the cover off the regulator and find the regulator relay - it's the one whose contacts are held CLOSED by spring tension.

2 - Connect an accurate voltmeter across the battery terminals.

3 - Start the tractor and run it at max RPM.

4 - While observing the voltmeter, gently bend the spring hanger on the regulator relay to INCREASE spring tension. Stop when the voltmeter reads between 9.6 and 9.8 volts. Be careful here! The relay is very sensitive to spring tension - it's easy to increase it too much.

Note: If your tractor has just a cutout relay - identified by a 4-position (L-H-D-B) light switch, there is no way to adjust voltage other than by messing with the 3rd brush as previously discussed.

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Bergen

11-17-2000 10:46:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bob M, 11-17-2000 09:37:33  
Bob, I never thought about whether I've got a regulator or a cutout relay. it does have a cutout relay, but I'll do what you suggested on some other tractors. Thanks!!



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Bob M

11-17-2000 12:26:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bergen, 11-17-2000 10:46:41  
Hey Bergen - If you're adjusting voltage regulators, shoot for these regulator settings:

6 volt: 7.2 - 7.4 volts
8 volt: 9.6 - 9.8
12 volt: 14.4 - 14.8

Also make sure you don't exceed generator current rating at full RPM (13 - 15 amps for a letter series Farmall) so you don't overheat the generator.

Above settings are for cool weather. If temps are routinely 80 deg and above, drop the voltages by a few tenths to improve battery life.

Note - You CAN replace the cutout with a voltage regulator. Requires a bit of additional wiring, but does a better job of regulating than a cutout/LHDB light switch combination - especially in the hands of an inexperienced operator. I recently helped a friend replace the cutout with a regulator on his '50 H, then reset it to accommodate the 8 bolt battery. It's working great.

Bob M

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Bergen

11-17-2000 13:03:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bob M, 11-17-2000 12:26:50  
Will do, Bob. I think that you deserve an honorary Ph. D. for all the help you give us corcerning electrical problems.



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Bob M - thanks!

11-17-2000 17:38:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3 brush generator in reply to Bergen, 11-17-2000 13:03:37  
Bergen - Others on this board have helped me a lot solving problems with my old tractors. It's nice to give a little bit back when I can...

Bob M



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