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BTD

01-22-2001 06:28:14

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Guys,

Yesterday I removed the second rear tire from my M (and I now have two trashcans full of cal. chloride water which I don't know what to do with). So now it is supported solely by the blocks under the axle housings. I have 4 pieces of 6x6 about a foot long stacked up with a piece of 4x4 bolted on to the side of the 6x6's on each side of the tractor. On top of the 6x6 stacks I have various pieces of 1x6 I shimmed in there to accomodate the difference between the stack and the axle housing height. Before I took the wheels off I had then off the ground and shook this frame to see how stable the wood was. It barely budges. Does this sound adequate or should I put some jackstands underneath the axles as well?

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BTD

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john d......It only has to budge once!

01-22-2001 18:52:33

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

I think I'd heed the advice of some previous posters and either crib it a little differently, or get some jacktands, or both. If the tractor has a narrow front, it will have little stability with blocks under just the axle housings. A wide front end wouldn't be much better!

It may just "barely budge" right now.... but I don't think I'd want to work on (or under!)it if it would budge at all!

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BTD

01-23-2001 04:39:30

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Re: Re: support for rear end of M in reply to john d......It only has to budge once!, 01-22-2001 18:52:33

Last night I put a pair of jack stands my brother in law had under the axles. I don't know who made them, but the things are huge. They are near their lowest setting to fit under the axles. I have 12 ton stands under the front (wide). I am going to see about getting some stands like F14's built. Thanks all for the input!

BTD

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kimk

01-22-2001 17:12:58

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

Good rule of thumb for loose wood cribbing is a base of a MINIMUM of 1/2 the height. It should always be stacked w/ alternating rows running at right angles. Kinda like building a log cabin. If I understand the setup you describe, it sounds like a 911 call in the making.

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Phlogiston

01-22-2001 11:03:52

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

One time I went in to the house for a few minutes, came back out and my friends had the tractor off the ground and held up with a bunch of telephone books and a Church directory.

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T_Bone

01-22-2001 10:13:49

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

Hi BTD, When using wood blocking, it's best to run two blocks oneway, then the next two blocks on top the opposite way, reversing each layer as you go up. That makes a very stable block setup but takes alot of shoring material. It ties each block layer together so there won't be any movement.

F14 jack stands sounds very good! I'll have to make a set.

T_Bone

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The Red

01-22-2001 07:01:11

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

I agree with Fawteen on this one. That could topple way to easily.

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BTD

01-22-2001 07:36:02

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Re: Re: support for rear end of M in reply to The Red, 01-22-2001 07:01:11

Thanks for the input guys! This afternoon I will go and borrow my brother in law's jack stands until I can get something more substantial under the tractor. I'm now thinking cut up railroad ties perhaps?. I don't know where he got them, but the jack stands he has are massive. Maybe I can get them on indefinite loan. :)

BTD

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paul

01-22-2001 22:45:24

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Re: Re: Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 07:36:02

Your current stands are plenty substantial, the problem is they can slip over sideways. I don't think railroad ties will really help any.

Could you bolt bigger (wider) feet on the bottom of your current stands?

--->Paul

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F14

01-22-2001 06:52:57

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Re: support for rear end of M in reply to BTD, 01-22-2001 06:28:14

Sounds a little shakey to me, especially if it's going to be that way for a while. Bolting them together is a great idea, but you're still looking at a 6" footprint laterally, which is a bit tippy for my taste.

I built a set of stands out of 8" wellpipe on a 16" square plate steel base. Uprights are 8" pipe, and I cut another 4" slice off the end of a piece of 8" pipe and cut it in half to make "U" shaped pieces for the axle housings to sit in. Very stable, rugged as all get out. Got the pipe for nothing as cut-offs from a local well digger.

Personally, I'd keep kids an animals away from your current setup, and I wouldn't crawl underneath it myself. Just my opinion, of course, and I'm a coward...

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