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Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20

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Berryville

11-05-2007 14:10:59




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The tag on the dash shows the Serial Number to be #TE-85206 which puts my tractor at a 1949?

is this the right engine for a TE-20 built in 1949?

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Wondering what the "X" is for

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Anyone know what the K 13 W mean?

Thanks,

Pete

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Bob (Aust)

11-06-2007 21:05:48




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 Re: Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20 in reply to Berryville, 11-05-2007 14:10:59  
That "thing" above your finger is the block coolant drain tap. Apart from being blocked (with wasp nests?) I think it is in the open position.
If it is the same as the TEA tap, they stick rather badly, are relatively soft brass and will snap off unless you use great care removing it.



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Berryville

11-06-2007 17:02:57




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 Re: Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20 in reply to Dan Oehmke, 11-05-2007 14:10:59  

Jeff-oh said: (quoted from post at 20:25:16 11/06/07) Interesting interesting.....

You have a TE-20/TO-20 engine with a TEA serial number. The general feeling is that there were no true TE-20 tractors made after SN 48000. That they were all letter series tractors. However there have been a few reported TE-20's with SN's in the mid 80000's talked about here lately.

There is also a good chance you have a replacement engine. Do you have the engine serial number? the data plate is located under the 4th spark plug.

The K 13 W is a casting code. Where was it located. The K 13 is probally October 13th. I am not sure of the W but it would translate to the year.

Could you post a left side photo of your engine and fuel tank? with the hood open.

also can you crawl under the tractor and look at the casting on the front of the engine undet the fan belt/water pump. Is this housing rounded and solid on the bottom, or is it flat and have holes hor bolts or another attachemnt?

Finally is the transmission housing aluminum or steel? Look for rusting or no rusting. I am thinking it is aluminum based on you foot plat pictures. you have enough paint knocked off you should be able to tell.

Finally... Did I say that already. What do the distributer wires look like? are they slip on or screw on types?

Could you post a picture of your data plate?


There looks like a place for a SN on the block but there is no stamped or a plate mounted in that area, however there looks like a place for one. Could the plate be missing?

In this image you can see a raised area on the block where it looks like something should be

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Here is a photo of the left side of the motor.

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and a photo of the right side

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Here is a photo under the front side of the motor

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The wires on the distributer will pull out but there is a cap that you have to screw off.

What the heck is this thing?

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The plate on the dash is very hard to read and impossible to photograph, I can make out the SN but thats it

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The transmission housing looks like its aluminum, no rust on that part

Yhis is the tractor that the Ferguson is replacing..... Im ghona sell it as soon as I get it back together..

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Oh yea, while I had the camera out I had to take a photo of my pride and joy...

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Thanks,

Pete

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cdmn

11-07-2007 20:42:55




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 Re: Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20 in reply to Berryville, 11-06-2007 17:02:57  
It's definitely a Continental 120 cu in engine. And it seems very likely that the tractor is an English built model. Looks like alloy. Looks like steering gear is cast into the transmission cover. Has the double latches to hold the hood down. The distributor is English, but they'll fit in the US Continental too. The front axle mount has the spacer that is about 3/4 thick that makes up for the shorter American engine. And I believe only the English tractor had the stiffening rods between the front axle mount and the bell housing.

I have seen a couple TEA20s with Continentals, including my own, but they were not neatly done. They were farmyard conversions. In my case, they needed the original TEA flywheel and clutch, which has new bolt holes, etc, to mate it to the Z120 crankshaft. A kosher TE20 would have a nicer setup in this area.

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Jeff-oh

11-06-2007 11:25:16




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 Re: Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20 in reply to Berryville, 11-05-2007 14:10:59  
Interesting interesting.....

You have a TE-20/TO-20 engine with a TEA serial number. The general feeling is that there were no true TE-20 tractors made after SN 48000. That they were all letter series tractors. However there have been a few reported TE-20's with SN's in the mid 80000's talked about here lately.

There is also a good chance you have a replacement engine. Do you have the engine serial number? the data plate is located under the 4th spark plug.

The K 13 W is a casting code. Where was it located. The K 13 is probally October 13th. I am not sure of the W but it would translate to the year.

Could you post a left side photo of your engine and fuel tank? with the hood open.

also can you crawl under the tractor and look at the casting on the front of the engine undet the fan belt/water pump. Is this housing rounded and solid on the bottom, or is it flat and have holes hor bolts or another attachemnt?

Finally is the transmission housing aluminum or steel? Look for rusting or no rusting. I am thinking it is aluminum based on you foot plat pictures. you have enough paint knocked off you should be able to tell.

Finally... Did I say that already. What do the distributer wires look like? are they slip on or screw on types?

Could you post a picture of your data plate?

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john(UK)

11-06-2007 12:35:40




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 Re: Engine Numbers on a 49 TE-20 in reply to Jeff-oh, 11-06-2007 11:25:16  
The original cut-off point of serial number 48,000 for TE20 tractors has found to be wrong when checking the main records from production. Although the Continental was not fitted in any great quantity after that serial number, they were fitted for a long time after that, sometimes upon request sometimes to a special order. The exact numbers will never be known.So it isn't a TEA serial number, it is whatever it says on the tag plate...John

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