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Farmall M Manifold

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05-11-2008 17:40:25




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Which manifold is better to use.... I have an older cold manifold that I was planning to use on my 281 M. I have another M that has a brand new manifold on it, which is better. If the new one will be better I'll take it off the M I don't pull and also how much can be removed from the exhaust ports on the manifold to help me




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05-12-2008 19:42:44




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 Re: Farmall M Manifold in reply to manifolds, 05-11-2008 17:40:25  
mine doesnt say vinson on it so i'll just use the old one so i dont have to tear another M apart..... Chad what oil do you run to break in an engine



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super mta puller

05-12-2008 10:49:32




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 Re: Farmall M Manifold in reply to manifolds, 05-11-2008 17:40:25  
Chad where is vinson located on manifold?Intake or exhaust?Can it be seen without removing from tractor?Any other identitying characteristics such as distance from carb to tee?I have an aftermarket manifold that is shorter here and longer to the head.Also while I have your attention how many degrees advance do you run on your higher compression M,s @ 540 pto?Thsnks for the advice.



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ChadS

05-12-2008 18:13:41




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 Re: Farmall M Manifold in reply to super mta puller, 05-12-2008 10:49:32  
"Vinson" casted right across the intake, cant miss it. Alot heavier built, the intake runners are physically larger than the stock manifold. I had some pictures of one I put on a SM I built up, but was a sure 3 hp gain by bolting it on. Had crisper throttle responce.

Timing,, well, I set em on the dyno and always at 540 too. I have no numbers to report as far as exact figures, each engine combo and even identical builds can be set different/have different base timing from one engine to the next. The distributors do have to be looked at on old IH's. Lots of room for improvements, and fuel type, cyl pressure, cam profiles, maybe a few more items to add to the list, all affect base timing. With bout 75% of our engines on E85, the timing has been leaning to the retarded side of the scale. Having a fast responding distributor is the key to getting the crisp, fast throttle responce, getting the timing all in before the rated rpm, so its there, waiting for the load to be applied to the engine. Lighter springs in the advance will help, and you can play with the tab stop on the advance cam in the distributor to get a few more extra degrees to help widen the scale out for higher rpm, and some lower rpm ranges. I slot the holes in the distributor plate, where the cam sits, I go both ways, so it can go a little more advanced an retarded in the mechanical advance travel, and this helps get a different base timing, does seem to help starter lag and get em fired up quicker. So, sorry, got no specs, but thats what Im thinking when I got alot of cyl pressure and the distributor has to be working a little faster to keep up. Hope this helps, ChadS

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ChadS

05-12-2008 07:17:23




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 Re: Farmall M Manifold in reply to manifolds, 05-11-2008 17:40:25  
If the new manifold has "Vinson" casted into it, then swap em out for sure. Removing both and having a look is bout it. ChadS



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