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Hitch and Weight

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JD JACK

09-05-2002 19:48:42




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I have a 44 JD A. I am just getting into pulling this tractor. I need some ideas and pictures on how to make a good hitch. I just use the stock hitch and clevis.
Also when I am pulling in the 4500 and 5500 lb class, I spin out. have 14.9-38 firestone 23 degree tires, 12 psi. Most of weight is on rear in 5500 class. What can I do to force more weight on the rear tires? A JD G can go alot farther and not spin out where I am spinning out, WHY?
Thnaks JD JACK

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Greg

09-06-2002 08:27:24




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 Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to JD JACK, 09-05-2002 19:48:42  
You need to move the hitch in as far as you can. Rules allow you to be as close as 18 inches from the center of the axle. By moving your hitch in you will be able to maximize your ability to lift more on the pan of the sled.



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Duben

09-06-2002 08:08:14




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 Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to JD JACK, 09-05-2002 19:48:42  
You're pulling from a stock hitch w/ clevis. You need to be at the maximum allowable height. Look at the hitches of the other tractors you're pulling against (the ones that pull the best). Build a hitch where you don't use a clevis. Tires could have the wrong pressure. About 10 or 12 psi might be a good starting point. Balance the tractor with weights as best you can - if possible, you want the front end a couple inches off the ground at the end of the pull. Hope this helps.

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Agent Orange

09-06-2002 07:28:34




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 Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to JD JACK, 09-05-2002 19:48:42  
You might play with your tire pressure by lowering it a pound at a time.



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Jim M

09-06-2002 07:02:11




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 Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to JD JACK, 09-05-2002 19:48:42  
If your front end is not coming up you need to legthen your pull point. That is if you are at the max height if not get there.



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JDJACK

09-06-2002 16:15:49




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 Re: Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to Jim M, 09-06-2002 07:02:11  
The max height is 20 inches, that is where I am at.
I have the draw bar moved in all the way, not sure how far from the center I am. If I extended the draw bar out will that put more weight on the rear wheels, or do i need to shorten drawbar?
Frontend never came up. About 10 psi in tires.



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Jim M

09-06-2002 17:44:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Hitch and Weight in reply to JDJACK, 09-06-2002 16:15:49  
Everybody seems to have their own ideas on this but I think if the front end does not come up you need more leverage with a longer drawbar to pick the front end up. When the drawbar down pressure picks the front wheels a little off of the ground all of the tractors weight is on the back tires. If the front comes up too much you lose the height and down pressure. Tire design also can make a difference. I think the more rubber touching the track means less pounds per square inch of down pressure and the more likely it is to spin. That is why tires with cleats close together spin easily. Tires too narrow have trouble also by digging through too much so tire size for weight class is a key and for track conditions. The Firestones reps swear you need to run the pressure the tire needs for the weight on it. If you look at your ruts when you spin out the bottom should be flat across the tread. Too much air means deeper in the middle. Too little air means deeper on the edges. Just right means flat.

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