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Hutson's W-40 ,what happened?

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REDneck

03-19-2001 10:27:43




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I'm curious what happened to the mighty 600 that knocked Hutson off the mountain? He (Hutson) had a pretty good weekend. I'm sure Hutson isn't ready tro roll over just yet folks. What does everyone else think?




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larry

03-19-2001 10:39:54




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 Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to REDneck, 03-19-2001 10:27:43  
Hudson did do well. A JD 70 won the 5500# open! Jim's tractor is starting to push a lot of blow-by though! After fruitland, he was 1 to 4 against the 600, but now is 3 to 4. the 600 won the 7500 and 8000 open. Heard it was the 600's second time out. Missing gears hurt it big time. They ran 3rd gear in the 5500-8000# classes and actually finally made it work in the 8000# class. I bet they get gearing figured out soon! The w-40 WAXED everyone the day before in Kearney, NE I heard. The weather wasn't much! There were some strong light tractors there (H's,C's, A & G Deeres, and a 70 JD!!!)

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Gary

03-20-2001 02:45:38




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 Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to larry, 03-19-2001 10:39:54  
Yea, thats pretty amazing a John Deere 70 could do anything,but was it a John Deere 70 or a Brand
XX Aftermarket 70 with John Deere decals [Brand XX
Aftermarket defined by 51 percent orginal weight
replaced by parts that never saw the inside of the
Deere factory].At what point do Federal truth in
labeling laws kick in?



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TODD

03-20-2001 21:35:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 02:45:38  
Gee, I guess that all the bad Olivers, Cases, Molines, Farmalls, Masseys, use 100% pure factory parts in thier engines made by their own dealers.



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Gary

03-20-2001 22:07:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to TODD, 03-20-2001 21:35:08  
I'm not aware of an aftermarket block for any of
of the tractors you named,only the Deeres do that.



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burns

03-21-2001 12:31:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 22:07:45  
A block for any brand tractor would just be the tip of the iceberg when compared against the many aftermarket products avaliable for ALL makes of tractors. Do you look at aftermarket parts as parts specifically used in only one brand tractor which wouldn't be found anywhere else. So the guys that run automotive pistons in their tractors, they aren't using aftermarket pistons? Are the guys that use sparkplug adaptors so they can use a variety of heat range plugs using aftermarket parts? Come on Gary get over Deere pullers cheating by using aftermarket parts. Some tractors in Div II and most all tractors that pull Div III-V use aftermarket parts.

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Gary

03-21-2001 15:15:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to burns, 03-21-2001 12:31:36  
I'm not saying its cheating if its allowed its fine,but no other brand is allowed to use a block unless at least had some connection to the orginal
company.Try putting a 671 Detroit in an Oliver 88
and see how far you get at most antique pulls,but
Deeres are allowed to run recently manufactured
blocks that have no connection to the John Deere
tractor Company other than being cast to bolt up,
this is not useing a few high performance after
market parts,this is useing half a newly manufactured and designed tractor in an antique
tractor pull.I think the basic block and head
should have been built by the company of the same
make as what was in the tractor orginally even if
built at a later date,ie 310 in Oliver 88. I
make the example with Olivers because the 99
and 880 wheatland I pull are both bone stock and run
like it,not stating the case to modify them.

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burns

03-21-2001 16:20:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-21-2001 15:15:01  
If I understand you correctly, there are folks running blocks in their two-cylinders that are recast blocks (not orginals resleeved)???



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Justin

03-21-2001 18:21:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to burns, 03-21-2001 16:20:11  
burns, Funderburk casts new 7.5" blocks for a G. But all this stuff doesn't apply to just the Deere's. Lemmons is casting new heads for M's, I know more than one guy out there working on new heads for 44 Masseys. I'm sure Olivers will have heads out there soon if they don't already now.

Justin



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burns

03-21-2001 19:48:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Justin, 03-21-2001 18:21:09  
See what you learn when you crawl out from under a rock. I didn't realize that Funderbunk is doing that type of work. What is the price for one? I think I will like my .090 block even better when I hear the price.



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Babbitt Rod

03-20-2001 03:23:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 02:45:38  
Gary you'r just jelous.



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Gary

03-20-2001 04:30:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Babbitt Rod, 03-20-2001 03:23:21  
How'd you know?Your psychadelic logic is almost
as keen as your spelling.



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Babbitt Rod

03-20-2001 04:49:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 04:30:01  
If you knowed as much about tractors, and tractor pulling as you do about spelling, there might be a need for ya some day.



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Gary

03-20-2001 05:11:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Babbitt Rod, 03-20-2001 04:49:41  
I was taught to never be rude to the ladies,so what is you pull Honey?



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Babbitt Rod

03-20-2001 05:30:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 05:11:34  
You may have been taught, but its plane that you never learned anything. you must have been pushed out the pond of evalution. Wouldn't make no differnce what tractor I pull, you being a grand stand mecanic, couldn't tell the diff. But just to let ya know, its a Massey 44 with JD B pistons. your turn.



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Gary

03-20-2001 05:52:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Babbitt Rod, 03-20-2001 05:30:33  
Is the Pond of evaluation where they give the test
to be a Grandstand Maniac?



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Justin

03-20-2001 07:55:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 05:52:39  
I'm not aware of any aftermarket parts made for the 70, other than a Power Block, which doesn't make a hill of beans difference. You can do just as much with a factory block as you can with a power block.

Justin



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Gary

03-20-2001 08:45:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Justin, 03-20-2001 07:55:55  
If that's true why buy a powerblock?



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Justin

03-20-2001 09:26:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Gary, 03-20-2001 08:45:21  
The only real advantage to the power block is they had a larger stock bore than the factory block and bumped compression up a little. When you get into the big bores though you can get just as much bore out of the factory blocks as you can a power block. So why buy a power block? Not sure. Any power gain you get from them doesn't offset the price of buying one and pistons for it. And besides all that, power blocks are a pain. The pistons have to go in and come out the back of the block.

Justin

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Gary

03-20-2001 09:45:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hutson's W-40 ,what happened? in reply to Justin, 03-20-2001 09:26:54  
I hear the wind blowing,but don't see the leaves
moving yet.



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