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Div 4 5 speed limit

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11-13-2002 18:44:46




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any div 4 & 5 guys going to Columbia?
are you voting for:
no speed limit
15 mph
12 mph
10 mph




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div 5 puller

11-14-2002 17:05:17




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
I agree with A-puller. It is alot easier to get up to speed on a 300 ft track using a slam sled (like the ATPA NTPA use) that lets you get rolling then puts the hurts to you at 50 ft from the end of the track. Indoors we pull on antique tractor sleds that are set real heavy in div 4&5 and are tough to get going, especially if you don't have enough front end ballast which is the case for 1/2 of the div 5 tractors that are pulling with bigger tractors in lighter classes. There is no way a 460 with any motor on 18.4's can get up to 15mph on a 200ft track pulling on antique tractor sleds with operators that have been warned about a 15+ mph 460, and shift the sled up a few more gears.

I too was wondering when this "vote" on the speed limit was suppose to be done. Is there going to be a meeting for all the div 4&5 pullers where they can vote by secret ballot on what speed limit, if any, they want in their division?

I was not planning on going to columbia, and haven't gone to the Nov columbia pull ever. I don't think I should HAVE to go to a pull just to tell the NATPA to keep the speed limits where they already are (in div 1-3).

The real question is... Why do we need to vote on a speed limit for classes that have the rules frozen?

The 460 in question is within the "grey area of the rules". He is using a 360 diesel block that is within 1/16" of an inch of being legal and he is using crossflow IH V-8 gas heads that were cut and rewelded to make two 3 cyl heads.

Since the board likes to make up rules for classes that have the rules frozen (remember the seat belts, wide front ends, ladder bars) then why didn't they just take care of this "grey area" and make up a rule: no cut apart and rewelded or "made up" heads. There is a Farmall 460, Farmall H, Farmall M, & a Ford that have these "made up" heads. Something should be done to stop these heads because I guarantee there will be alot more of these heads showing up before long, and they will be coming from more places than rushville, IN.

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A-PULLER============

11-14-2002 18:07:38




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 Re: Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to div 5 puller, 11-14-2002 17:05:17  
Good job,you forgot the MADE UP MANIFOLD,were did BEAR get one,I don't think from DENNY'S.
The BLOCK IS SHORT!,THATS ILLEGAL!".
No wonder there are so meny people PISSED!".
WITH all the mix & match parts, what is this tractor really CALLED!".
WHAT is NATPA comming TOO.



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A-PULLER*************

11-14-2002 14:07:04




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
"NO SPEED LIMIT" DIV. 4&5 are OPEN classes,can't make this one,but will be at the next one.I have a question,why do THEY fear BEARS tractor?,HOW is HE going,to get going too fast on a SHORT track, indoor tracks are alot shorter,most of the time there only about 200 feet at best.



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Ihpuller

11-14-2002 10:21:59




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
I am for 10 mph if natpa dont get a grip on these classes then they are gonna ruin them. We are goin through the same stage that went on 30-40 years ago. If they dont there will be alot of guys just say FUC! It.



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Call Lemmon's

11-14-2002 11:47:56




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 Re: Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to Ihpuller, 11-14-2002 10:21:59  
Lemmon's has a special on IH right now...V-8 add ons for increased horsepower!!



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ollie 88 puller

11-14-2002 07:35:58




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
10 mph



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Wah,Wah

11-14-2002 07:41:22




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 Re: Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ollie 88 puller, 11-14-2002 07:35:58  
Must be a Gingerich 88! If you can't run div 4 or 5 anymore, pull in a div you can!!



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Mike in Mo

11-14-2002 06:22:28




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
Is there supposed to be a meeting Fri nite? I've seen (on this forum) references to a meeting but I've not seen any official notice from NATPA. Anyone have any info on this?



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Not Going

11-14-2002 04:18:11




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 Re: div 4 5 speed limit in reply to ?, 11-13-2002 18:44:46  
Not Going, No Speed Limit--The tractor that caused this speed limit to be imposed (460) is illegal with the heads, YES HEADS on a 460 V-8! Eliminate the problem (Bear) and leave div 4 and 5 alone!!



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