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BUDD

12-21-2002 04:10:20




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I am just getting into pulling my 49 "A" JD. The 6 pulls that I pulled in the front end came up way to much 4 out of the 6 times. I did place very respectable in 5 of the 6. I have yet to get enough weight out front. My "A" weight is 78% rear and 22% front. I do understand that for good balance the front tires should just be off the ground. Is there a good % that I could start with (front to rear ratio) to try and get a head start for next year? This tractor will have some where in the 50 HP rage when done with it the winter. I do understand that the track and HP play a part of this as well as tires. Is there a formula that I could start with though?

THANKS for any and all suggestions BUDD

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Tom

12-22-2002 17:19:25




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 Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to BUDD, 12-21-2002 04:10:20  
I pull an oliver 88 fairly stock and i use 60%rear and 40% front as a general rule. I have used this as a starting point on many tractors in central wis. and central ny with success



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BUDD

12-23-2002 12:01:02




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 Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to Tom , 12-22-2002 17:19:25  
Tom;

Thanks a lot. I asked this question 3 times before I got an answer that I was looking for. This should get me in the area at least. No wonder my front comes up. Per this weight I need to add 800 lbs to the front. The most I have put on is 125 lbs and it was still light.

THANKS AGAIN BUDD



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2 cylinder

12-23-2002 12:50:13




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 Re: Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to BUDD, 12-23-2002 12:01:02  
Going from 125lbs. to 800lbs. on the nose sounds a little extreme. I have a 47 JD-A that's making 55hp that I pull in 4500-6000 classes and in the 6000lbs. class the most I have ever needed on the front is 240lbs and I've been pulling for 20 years. This is with my hitch 20" high by 18" and 24" from the center of the axle. This setup brings the front end up 2"-3" at the end of the pull. If you need 800lbs on the front, your hitch needs to be shoved in, unless your pulling in the 8000lb. and up classes. Just my 2 cents.

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long chain?

12-23-2002 19:47:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to 2 cylinder, 12-23-2002 12:50:13  
you must have a long chain and/or light sled. i've run my g with as much as 500 up front in 5500 and 900 in 6000. that's with drawbar 18 inches high and 18 inches from center of rear axle.



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2 cylinder's reply to long chain.

12-24-2002 16:10:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to long chain?, 12-23-2002 19:47:47  
I also pull a JD-G in 5500-7000lb. classes on a heavy transfer sled with a 4' chain. The most I have ever needed on the nose (without a Roll-Matic front end) was 200# in the heavy classes, and in the light classes sometimes no weight at all on the nose. This with 18", or 24" inches from axle center and 20" high on the hitch. With this setup on the JD-G I have the same results as with the JD-A. With the JD-G I have many trophies (including several 1st places) and prize money to show for this setup! And this is on some good biting clay tracks in classes that had 30-50 tractors in them, and some with more horsepower than me. I just can't see why all that weight on the nose is neccessary. I guess to each his own.

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oldtimr

12-24-2002 18:04:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to 2 cylinder's reply to long chain., 12-24-2002 16:10:20  
I pull a G in7000 ,8000 and don't have any front wts,18 back and 18 up for the hitch. all wts rear and brackets just ahead of the flywheel/clutch.only 200/300 on them the track determines the placement of my wts.always different,watch the tractors ahead of you.



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oldtimr

12-24-2002 18:03:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to 2 cylinder's reply to long chain., 12-24-2002 16:10:20  
I pull a G in7000 ,8000 and don't have any front wts,18 back and 18 up for the hitch. all wts rear and brackets just ahead of the flywheel/clutch.only 200/300 on them the track determines the placement of my wts.always different,watch the tractors ahead of you.



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lee

12-22-2002 19:03:50




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 Re: Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to Tom , 12-22-2002 17:19:25  
I wont to start antique tractor pulling with an farmall H is there a good pulling club in the Iowa city , cedar rapids area.



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2 cylinder

12-22-2002 07:27:45




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 Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to BUDD, 12-21-2002 04:10:20  
There isn't really any calculation for the weight placement on the tractor. I usually take notes from track to track about the setup of the tractor and how the tractor performed and what I should have done differently. And I use those notes to set the tractor up the next time I go to that track. Also pay attention to the weight placement on tractors similar to yours and how their tractor performed weight wise. I have changed my weight placement several times at a pull just watching those tractors pull before me. Just my experience from tractorpulling for 20 years.

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Dave

12-21-2002 20:16:49




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 Re: GOOD BALANCE in reply to BUDD, 12-21-2002 04:10:20  
You need to make some weight bracktes for you tractor. 100# suitcase weights work best for me, easy and quick to move around. You need to check the rules where you are going to do the majority of your pulling. Some require that no weights further than 2'fron the front of tractor, while some require that no weights past 11' fron center of back axel. Some people like belly mount weights. Whatever plan you go with, it will mainly be a matter of trial and error of where and how much you need where. The number of factors that can change where the weights need to be are what make pulling fun.It can also make you a little crazy.

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